1. resident evil 4 on the gamecube has 96% on gamerankings & metacritic
2. everyone agrees that resident evil 4 on the Wii is better
3. resident evil 4 on the Wii has 91% on gamerankins & metacritic
1+2+3 = gamerankings & metacritic are irrelevant
1. resident evil 4 on the gamecube has 96% on gamerankings & metacritic
2. everyone agrees that resident evil 4 on the Wii is better
3. resident evil 4 on the Wii has 91% on gamerankins & metacritic
1+2+3 = gamerankings & metacritic are irrelevant
Another thing is that many websites abandoned 1% steps lately and switched to 5% step width. I think that makes a rating of 95% more likely to be given than 100%, because many websites still argue that a 10 needs to be unsurpassably perfect in every way you can think of, and therefore they won't ever give a 10.
OoT vs. Twilight Princess: I think Twilight Princess is superior, but I haven't played OoT in a long time. I'd love to have OoT and Majora's Mask on the DS! Btw, was Majora's Mask already released on Virtual Console?
Currently playing: NSMB (Wii)
No, Galaxy won't become the highest rated game ever. However, that doesn't mean it’s not a better game than OoT. Many games are better than those currently in the top 10. I believe Galaxy might be the best platformer ever; OoT is just *one* of the best adventure games. What makes it important is that it was the "first" 3D adventure - but I would argue Mario 64 was more important still.
Personally, I would rate Majora's Mask over OoT. Why? Because it's not just a better game, it's an evolution of the Zelda franchise. On the other hand, I wouldn't rate Twilight Princess over either of those games. Why? Because while it's a great game, it's simply a rehash of OoT. I could never rate such a game higher than the original.
At any rate, I’m willing to bet Galaxy will end up in the top 10. Mario isn’t just another "hit"-niche game like Bioshock. It will get an average of 9.5 and so will stay put quite safely in the middle of the current highest rated games.
People you do not realise that Mario Zelda and Final Fantasy are diffirent types of games.one can like all 3 but he is also bound to prefer one of them.
| Helios said: Personally, I would rate Majora's Mask over OoT. Why? Because it's not just a better game, it's an evolution of the Zelda franchise. On the other hand, I wouldn't rate Twilight Princess over either of those games. Why? Because while it's a great game, it's simply a rehash of OoT. I could never rate such a game higher than the original. |
Majora's Mask: I'm with you on that. Anybody who complains that all Zelda games are more or less the same hasn't played MM.
But I'd strongly disagree that Twilight Princess is a rehash of OoT. IMO, the twilight thing added a completely new feel/look/sound to the game. And the story had far more twists and interesting moments than OoT's. I loved the story driven game passages (e.g. escorting the wagon, sneaking into the castle to save midna); TP breaks the traditional division of overworld (=doesn't really matter) and dungeon (=core gameplay), which I appreciate. Last week I played the ending for the second time, and I'm absolutely amazed once again.
Currently playing: NSMB (Wii)
ElRhodeo said:
Majora's Mask: I'm with you on that. Anybody who complains that all Zelda games are more or less the same hasn't played MM. But I'd strongly disagree that Twilight Princess is a rehash of OoT. IMO, the twilight thing added a completely new feel/look/sound to the game. And the story had far more twists and interesting moments than OoT's. I loved the story driven game passages (e.g. escorting the wagon, sneaking into the castle to save midna); TP breaks the traditional division of overworld (=doesn't really matter) and dungeon (=core gameplay), which I appreciate. Last week I played the ending for the second time, and I'm absolutely amazed once again.
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I think the evolution from Link to the Past to Ocarina of time was more like a revolution.
While Twilight Princess was amazing, and the storyline better than any previous Zelda it was not in concept really different from OoT. That's why OoT has that 3% higher ranking. But TP still has 95% which is amazing and on current gen only beaten by BioShock. (and it is basically a GameCube game).
I think people are sort of missing the big picture here. This game means a lot for the Wii's game library, and any game over a 9 average is obviously a very good game. Assuming it doesn't take a huge turn for the worse, this will be the Wii's 4th AAA (I define this is 9.0+) game in 1 year of being on the market. For reference, that's the exact same amount the 360 had in its first year (Now has 8), and 3 more than the PS3 currently has.
Another interesting thing is to look at is the genres of these games. The 360s 4 AAA games were GRAW (FPS), CoD2 (FPS), GeoW (TPS), and Oblivion (WRPG). The Wii has Twilight Princess (Action-Adventure), RE4 (TPS/Survival Horror), MP3 (FPS/Adventure), and SMG (Platformer).
In the first year of it's life the Wii has delivered 4 AAA games of different genres to its players. A very impressive feat. Especially for a system that is so criticized for a lack of games. Certainly the Wii for all its criticism is shaping into a very solid gaming machine for the "core" gamer. We can only hope it has the same success in its second year that the 360 had.

| BenKenobi88 said: alex59, I think you care about review scores a little too much. |
How else would you know if Super Mario Galaxy is truly greater than Ocarina of Time? Because Game Rankings averages the scores of compilations of multiple reviews, it is stronger than a single opinion, not just because more reviews are better than one opinion, but because the reviews are most oftenly done, professionally, by other, major websites. Sure, there is no super computer that pin points a number-based fact, on how good a game truly is, but Game Rankings is the closest thing. Opinions do have meaning, but are not as accurate as many opinions combined. Personally, I like the Mario games more than the Zelda games, but universally, the Zelda games got better reviews than the Mario games. One will use their own opinion over the fact, but one cannot use their own opinion to become the fact. Reviews are not everything. They only serve as a guidance. I cannot have an opinion on a game that I have not played, because I do not know if it is worth spending the money for, so the next best thing is to read the reviews.
Sorry Alex, not everything can be held to a measure, some things are just up to the fans to decide, not a bunch of reviewers still lost in the way things were last generation.
| ElRhodeo said: But I'd strongly disagree that Twilight Princess is a rehash of OoT. IMO, the twilight thing added a completely new feel/look/sound to the game. And the story had far more twists and interesting moments than OoT's. I loved the story driven game passages (e.g. escorting the wagon, sneaking into the castle to save midna); TP breaks the traditional division of overworld (=doesn't really matter) and dungeon (=core gameplay), which I appreciate. Last week I played the ending for the second time, and I'm absolutely amazed once again. |
Yes, I agree, Twilight Princess did improve upon OoT in nearly every way - except replayability. I too loved the story-driven elements that set it apart from the other games in the franchise. The problem is, it really never tried to be anything but OoT-deluxe. It also failed to live up to its own lofty promises; most of the early story turns into a garbled mess, a rehash, or is simply forgotten. Why did the Bullblins kidnap the kids? Why does none of the townsfolk know about the attack on Hyrule Castle? How was Zelda revived? Why was the Triforce/Master Sword/Temple of Time never given proper attention? Why was Ganondorf even in this game?
These are issues I personally cannot ignore. I think the game was just heading in the wrong direction. On the positive side, Phantom Hourglass thankfully does not share the same dilemma.
BengaBenga; What was it OoT did that hadn't already been done in ALttP? Aside from the new 3D elements and innovative battle system, I'm having trouble finding anything 'revolutionary' about the game. I still like OoT better - lots of small improvements - but for me at least the game wasn't nearly everything people say it was.