What we are seeing here, in regards to the Invisible Walls episode, is the hysteric and desperate sputterings of the so-called "hardcore" and how completely befuddled they are that the Wii is "destroying" their precious hobby. I've only heard such venomous talk on GT forums, but never on their podcasts, which seems to revolve around that Welsh douchers hate for anything, gaming wise, that lacks giant explosions and gunnery. The good news is, such venom cannot be sustained, it burns itself out and eventually dies out completely. I'm done with IW, their integrity has been in question before, but this episode was the zenith of ignorance and knee-jerk fanboy rhetoric........but as was mentioned earlier in this thread, their tears ARE oh so sweet.

Who cares what they think, the Wii will still outsell the PS3 and 360. You can always wonder why, but like they said, the Wii is for everyone, my mother wants one and my grandmother likes it also, its user friendly and the games are great for kids. I know if my kids would play video games, I'd buy them a Wii, not a console with games that you can blow up your opponent into pieces lol. Also the Wii is the best party console, hands down.

In the end, it doesn't matter how many versions of the PS3 they release, its still not going to sell. Its not because its smaller that all of sudden everyone will want it lol. Look at the 360 arcade its cheaper to buy that than the Wii, still its outselling it 2:1, so why will it be different with the PS3, I don't know.

Craig I don't mind though his write ups are rather boring to read most of the time.  Daemon has already put his foot in his mouth, he trolled in a podcast and readers tore him a new one.  I pretty much don't read anything from the Sony team with the exception of Greg Miller he's cool and makes good reviews.  Matt C. is a great reviewer just 2008 was weird he got really upset the Wii lacked big games, and even said the drought was worse then Gamecube and it's just nostalgia talking since GC has some BIG droughts.

Are you really as idiotic as you sound. You must loath yourself

We are talking about a videogame console.  

And it sounds like you are pretty arragant as well

is this if wii is done?

I don't think so, simply because it would still be around, not gone or unsupported. People still support dreamcast, so , yaknow?

Anyway, that takes care of the first 3 goodbyes, as for the next two atlas and suda, both are planning games on psp or ps3. They would adapt because psp is basically a ps2. Plus, motion controls will be available for all systems soon, and they could always support ps2, which does move quite a bit of software each month.

Well, the Wii could easily be destroyed by the PS3 or Xbox if they are used right

The linked article and view of the OP are dumber than Helen Keller.

The only way 360 or PS3 can catch the Wii at this stage is if they sell their systems for $100.
Plain and simple. There's a much tougher market to sell to now that the systems have been out 3-4 years respectively. Price cuts are designed to maintain steady sales instead of a continuing downward trend. They DO NOT bring the sales numbers back to launch.

The majority of the development world see Natal and PS3 motion as "me too" devices to draw casual games. The issue is, since its HD, it will cost more to make a casual HD game than a casual Wii game, plus Wii has the casual market already.

Translation - Natal and PS3 motion will only provide "Wii-like" control experience to the current userbases, not do much to increase sales.

That's it, that's all.

Yes I agree, dropping the PS3 or 360 repeatedly on the Wii probably will destroy it, once you manage to break the plastic casing

I'm not sure you even have to drop them, the Phat PS3 is a bit pointy so you could crack it easily. You could also stick the consoles with the vent pointing towards it and you might melt it?

bardicverse said: The linked article and view of the OP are dumber than Helen Keller. The only way 360 or PS3 can catch the Wii at this stage is if they sell their systems for $100. That's it, that's all. Plain and simple. There's a much tougher market to sell to now that the systems have been out 3-4 years respectively. Price cuts are designed to maintain steady sales instead of a continuing downward trend. They DO NOT bring the sales numbers back to launch. The majority of the development world see Natal and PS3 motion as "me too" devices to draw casual games. The issue is, since its HD, it will cost more to make a casual HD game than a casual Wii game, plus Wii has the casual market already. Translation - Natal and PS3 motion will only provide "Wii-like" control experience to the current userbases, not do much to increase sales. That's it, that's all.

Yeah... the fact that the controllers don't come with the console and probably won't be packaged with a huge selling title of something like Wii Sports Resort, few publishers will descide to support the devices, much like the PS Eye (which is one of the requirements of the PS3 Wand no less) and then Natal acts much like the PS Eye just a more advanced version.  One of the things Nintendo stated when they came up with the Wii remote was why didn't they go with something like the motion cameras like the PS2 did and they said customers would rather have something in their hands to play their games abd doing so also makes the controller versitile.

The main reason Nintendo has won this gen is because they listen to people, their line of thinking has always been making games that make people smile, things they enjoy, people would rather feel like they're swinging a bat instead of swinging their hands to simulate a bat which a camera will pick up and emulate. Motion controls have a long ways to go on all fronts but I think the camera idea has been tried multiple times now and have yet to really take off, so why beat a dead horse?