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Euphoria14 on 20 March 2009
numonex said:

 

 Two days only of data for RE5 sales in NA and Europe  and you already claiming its a win for PS3. By the way its ironic PS3 is getting hammered in total  console sales and you like to hang onto any slight morlae boosting win.

X360 gap over PS3 is 8.15 million and is growing and growing by every week

The numbers by end of first month will show RE5 will be in front on X360 than PS3. Attach rates regarding consoles sold with game for the week the two games released is what I meant. Not the BS about installbase and game sales.

What makes you think I give a damn about PS3/360 sales? Is this what this thread is about? Try to stay on topic. Don't change the subject because I proved you wrong.

I was not just sitting here claiming a win, I was refuting your bogus post full of bogus claims and skewed comparisons. I was making a case for why the game should be multiplatform.

Why not refute my counters against your attach ratio remarks? Why not refute my counters against you purposely excluding Japan sales? Why not refute my counters against your "sales are tied" remarks?

Is it because you know you were wrong and then had to change the subject and go off-topic?

 

By the way, about your "Gap is getting larger and sales are getting hammered" comment. Check the sales for the 3 mentioned titles. The gap and/or the increasing gap hasn't made much of a difference, what makes you all of a sudden think Capcom is going to take it into consideration and just go 360 exclusive if it doesn't even warrant it with a 8M+ lead?

 

 



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numonex on 20 March 2009
Euphoria14 said:
numonex said:
 

 

 Two days only of data for RE5 sales in NA and Europe  and you already claiming its a win for PS3. By the way its ironic PS3 is getting hammered in total  console sales and you like to hang onto any slight morlae boosting win.

X360 gap over PS3 is 8.15 million and is growing and growing by every week

The numbers by end of first month will show RE5 will be in front on X360 than PS3. Attach rates regarding consoles sold with game for the week the two games released is what I meant. Not the BS about installbase and game sales.

What makes you think I give a damn about PS3/360 sales? Is this what this thread is about? Try to stay on topic. Don't change the subject because I proved you wrong.

I was not just sitting here claiming a win, I was refuting your bogus post full of bogus claims and skewed comparisons. I was making a case for why the game should be multiplatform.

Why not refute my counters against your attach ratio remarks? Why not refute my counters against you purposely excluding Japan sales? Why not refute my counters against your "sales are tied" remarks?

Is it because you know you were wrong and then had to change the subject and go off-topic?

 

 

Saints Row 2 and Dead Rising 2 are multi-platform titles it is highly likely Lost Planet 2 will be multi-platform. Lost Planet was timed exclusive by over 14 months on X360. This adversely impacted on Lost Planet sales and the reviews took a hammering despite PS3 version being better than X360 version.

Lost planet 2 will sell more ltd sales on X360. Legs in Na and Europe due to X360 having much larger install base in non-Japan. Non-Japan X360 has 10 million lead over PS3 that should helop ltd sales of any given game on X360.

Shooters do not sell very well at all in Japan. The Emo JRPG, obscure Japanese niche  games only tend to sell well in Japan. Lost Planet 2 is a shooter and Japan will not help its sales at all for PS3. So Ps3 will not be saved from being outsold by X360 in regards to Lost Planet 2 sales.

In regards to me omitting Japan there is a reason. well the HD game sales (PS3 and X360) are very top heavy and sell 90% of their ltd sales in first two weeks.  80% of Japanese HD game sales in one week. 10% of Japanese HD game sales are in second week and then 10% in the remaining weeks of its life on the market (Japan region only). The games sell relative to their install bases in Japan. In Japan PS3 games outsells any given X360 game by around about 4  to 1 in favour of PS3.

The sales of the other regions do not follow the Japanese model and there are longer legs in Europe and NA regarding game sales of HD consoles.

*HD consoles refers to X360 and PS3 console only.

According to game sales on Lost Planet X360 sold 1.85 million but was released 14 months before it was launched on PS3. PS3 Lost Planet sold only 410k.

If games were released at same time it would still be a X360 win over PS3 but the gap would be much closer and I say 3 copies of Lost Planet would be sold to every 2 copies of Lost Planet on PS3. 3 to 2 ratio is applicable to shooter genre due to NA region skewing the sales in X360s favour. europe is a 1.2 to 1 in favour of PS3 for shooter titles.

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=Lost+Planet&console=®ion=All&developer=&publisher=&genre=&keyword=&boxart=Both&results=50&order=Hits



XxXProphecyXxX on 20 March 2009

"Shooters do not sell very well at all in Japan, Lost Planet 2 is a shooter and Japan will not help its sales at all for PS3"

RE5 is shooter too and sold way more on ps3 than the 360 in japan....



Max King of the Wild on 20 March 2009
numonex said:
Euphoria14 said:
numonex said:
 

 

 Two days only of data for RE5 sales in NA and Europe  and you already claiming its a win for PS3. By the way its ironic PS3 is getting hammered in total  console sales and you like to hang onto any slight morlae boosting win.

X360 gap over PS3 is 8.15 million and is growing and growing by every week

The numbers by end of first month will show RE5 will be in front on X360 than PS3. Attach rates regarding consoles sold with game for the week the two games released is what I meant. Not the BS about installbase and game sales.

What makes you think I give a damn about PS3/360 sales? Is this what this thread is about? Try to stay on topic. Don't change the subject because I proved you wrong.

I was not just sitting here claiming a win, I was refuting your bogus post full of bogus claims and skewed comparisons. I was making a case for why the game should be multiplatform.

Why not refute my counters against your attach ratio remarks? Why not refute my counters against you purposely excluding Japan sales? Why not refute my counters against your "sales are tied" remarks?

Is it because you know you were wrong and then had to change the subject and go off-topic?

 

 

IPS3 and X360) are very top heavy and sell 90% of their ltd sales in first two weeks.  80% of game sales in one week. 10% in second week and then 10% in the remaining weeks of its life on the market. The games sell relative to their install bases. PS3 outsells any given X360 game by around about 4  to 1 in favour of PS3.

The sales of the other regions do not follow the Japanese model and there are longer legs in Europe and NA regarding game sales of HD consoles.

*HD consoles refers to X360 and PS3 console only.

 

 


you totally pulled that outta your ass. halo 3 is past 9 million 80% for first week would be 7 million



badgenome on 20 March 2009

^ Sales in Japan, dawg.



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Max King of the Wild on 20 March 2009
badgenome said:
^ Sales in Japan, dawg.

i didnt read the full post but it still bull shit. wkc debut at 200k now at 330k. 80% of 330 is 260



Max King of the Wild on 20 March 2009
badgenome said:
^ Sales in Japan, dawg.

i didnt read the full post but it still bull shit. wkc debut at 200k now at 330k. 80% of 330 is 260. demon souls debuted under 40k is now above 80. mgs4 670k total 540k 80% 460k debut. gta4 230k. 180k 80% debut 120k



Euphoria14 on 20 March 2009
numonex said:
Euphoria14 said:

What makes you think I give a damn about PS3/360 sales? Is this what this thread is about? Try to stay on topic. Don't change the subject because I proved you wrong.

I was not just sitting here claiming a win, I was refuting your bogus post full of bogus claims and skewed comparisons. I was making a case for why the game should be multiplatform.

Why not refute my counters against your attach ratio remarks? Why not refute my counters against you purposely excluding Japan sales? Why not refute my counters against your "sales are tied" remarks?

Is it because you know you were wrong and then had to change the subject and go off-topic?

 

 

Saint s Row 2 and Dead Rising 2 will be multi-platform titles it is highly likely Lost Planet 2 will be multi-platform.

This was why I made my post, to show that the game will indeed be multi. At least we agree there.

Lost planet 2 will sell more ltd sales on X360. Legs in Na and Europe due to X360 having much larger install base in non-Japan. Non-Japan X360 has 10 million lead over PS3 that should helop ltd sales of any given game on X360.

Other than Lost Planet (due to being released 13 months prior) the other 3 mentioned titles sold more on PS3 in EU+Others. Yes the 10M lead will help, but it has yet to prove that it will guarantee higher sales in every case. In my opinion this has more to do with gamer demographic on each console rather than just userbase size.

Shooters do not sell very well at all in Japan. The Emo JRPG, obscure Japanese niche  games only tend to sell well in Japan. Lost Planet 2 is a shooter and Japan will not help its sales at all for PS3. So Ps3 will not be saved from being outsold by X360 in regards to Lost Planet 2 sales.

You could be right, Americas is stronger for the 360 in terms of shooters, even if multiplatorm with a simultaneous release 360 version can and probably will outsell it as shown my my Saints Row 2 comparison. Point of this thread is about not being exclusive though. I doubt the difference between sales would remain 4:1. Possibly more like 1.75:1 or 2:1.

In regards to me omitting Japan there is a reason. well the HD game sales (PS3 and X360) are very top heavy and sell 90% of their ltd sales in first two weeks.  80% of game sales in one week. 10% in second week and then 10% in the remaining weeks of its life on the market. The games sell relative to their install bases. PS3 outsells any given X360 game by around about 4  to 1 in favour of PS3.

Sales are still sales, they do not just get excluded to help prove a point.

The sales of the other regions do not follow the Japanese model and there are longer legs in Europe and NA regarding game sales of HD consoles.

*HD consoles refers to X360 and PS3 console only.

 

 

I like this much more than how we were going at it before. I enjoy this more.

To be honest though, I don't even know why I care. It is not like I even played the original game. I am just trying to help kill time during work so I can get out and continue playing ToV.

 



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kber81 on 20 March 2009
numonex said:
Hammered in terms of total console numbers. gap is 8.15 million or something and it is growing and growing all the time. 10 million gap in favour of X360 will be here by start of Fall 2009.

What does this gap mean for capcom? - potentially they can sell more on 360, potentially. Reality goes with a different story - all big capcom's franchises sell better on PS3 despite gap you are bragging about. Fact X360 with such advantage can't secure better sales is simply weird. Especially in the long run (DMC4).

 

Where is this super duper 360 attach rate?

BTW you should do something with this gayish avatar.



Max King of the Wild on 20 March 2009
kber81 said:
numonex said:
Hammered in terms of total console numbers. gap is 8.15 million or something and it is growing and growing all the time. 10 million gap in favour of X360 will be here by start of Fall 2009.

What does this gap mean for capcom? - potentially they can sell more on 360, potentially. Reality goes with a different story - all big capcom's franchises sell better on PS3 despite gap you are bragging about. Fact X360 with such advantage can't secure better sales is simply weird. Especially in the long run (DMC4).

 

Where is this super duper 360 attach rate?

BTW you should do something with this gayish avatar.


if im not mistaken he is gay. i dont mind the avatar im secure about my sexuality