people have been clamoring for a star fox for decades

sorry if youre like a teenager or some shit so you may not realize this

but a proper brand new f zero or star fox game would be gigantic

i know you are going to pretend to not understand what i mean by gigantic, so i will spell it out for you so we dont have to waste time on that. something like this would be gigantic among those of use who frequent niche video game websites that nobody cares about. it would be huge to us.

a brand new star fox game that looked like exactly what they showed? man that right there would be enough to satisfy any of the naysayers who are the topic of this thread.

people arent losing it over OoT because they already spent the last month or so doing exactly that because it got leaked. kingdom hearts 4 isnt even published by nintendo, so its completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. youre just throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks at this point. but go ahead and pretend that all of us here should be hyped over a game because itll sell ten million copies and is therefore huge. go ahead and do it. 

I actually think it's totally fair to insist a system has "no games" if none of them satisfy you. It's not the responsibility of the individual to appreciate everything a company puts out, or to care if others like the line-up. If Nintendo puts out 50 games, and I dislike them all, well, then there really are no games.

Here are the problems, though:

• A lot of video game enthusiasts don't bother to actually play the games.
• Video game enthusiasts can be weirdly picky and inflexible, refusing to explore entire genres or balking because of one design decision.

This is totally fine, by the way. But you shouldn't weigh in with such confidence if you're not spending the time and energy to properly experience a game library. And I'm not talking about so-called "casual" players. They're playing their favorites and living their lives. I'm talking about us.

rational post.

its true. i didnt spend any time on pokopia. it looked like a throw away title at reveal but i have since seen that it has received praise and positive feedback. i can appreciate that and i can recognize it as a quality title. 

but its pokopia. the problem that some of us have is that we are being told that its fine that we are getting remakes because nintendo made pokopia and its selling a lot and has good reviews. these remakes look completely kick ass, so its disappointing that something that looks so cool is being used to remake a game rather than making a totally new experience. i dont feel like thats a hard thing to understand, and many here dont. but this thread so far has become a giant circle jerk trashing people with this point of view and saying we should be happy because nintendo made pokopia. it is selling quite well afterall.

LOL. Obviously. Big sellers mean that a game is more important to a bigger group of people. I don't demand you should be excited. But if you claim the two biggest releases for the year, then it should be about more than yourself. And I get Zelda. Zelda is a big deal for a lot of people. But not Starfox.

You have to realize that people have different tastes. And Nintendo is looking to satisfy as much people as possible. But you claimed: "we are annoyed because nintendo's two biggest releases for the year". Starfox is not by a long shot. Good that Nintendo is looking for some fans. Attacking me because I don't accept your obviously bad faith argument about what consists of the biggest releases for the year is not making you look good. It is great if you are happy about Starfox. But don't put your preferences on gamers as a whole. We all like different things. The biggest releases of the year are the ones that big groups of gamers wants, the most hyped franchises are the one the most gamers are excited about.

It is. Because I don't give a shit about Starfox, but I was highly interested in Pokopia, because I waited for years now for a new Dragon Quest Builders. Square is not doing it, but Nintendo is, and it is great. So I think it is quite rude of you, to apply your preferences to everyone and claim your tastes matter more than everyones elses.

this isnt a fair assessment at all. nobody is demanding that we get anything that you listed. the problem is nintendo padding their first party lineup with remakes.
the switch 2 quite frankly has not built up enough of a library of original titles to get away with filling the year with remakes and switch 2 edition updates. its a very simple concept, and whenever its brought up, it seems to short-circuit the brains of a lot of folks who seem to want to inject way more complexity into this issue than there needs to be.
we are annoyed because nintendo's two biggest releases for the year are remakes, not because we are "trained to have a 3d mario by now." completely unfair.

Here’s the thing though, you’re saying that their “two biggest releases for the year are remakes” that’s just factually wrong. And you seem to be deciding what’s big based on your personal preferences rather than looking at each games sales potential.

Star Fox series

Star Fox-2.99m

Star Fox 64-4.00m

Star Fox Adventures-1.82m

Star Fox Assault-less than 1m

Star Fox Command-less than 1m

Star Fox 64 3D-1.07m

Star Fox Zero-less than 1m

Mario Tennis series

Mario Tennis (N64)-2.32m

Mario Tennis (GBC)-1.18m

Mario Power Tennis-1.16m

Mario Tennis: Power Tour-less than 1m

Mario Tennis Open-1.58m

Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash-less than 1m

Mario Tennis Aces-4.50m

Yoshi Series

Yoshi’s Island (SNES)-4.12m

Yoshi’s Story-2.85m

Yoshi’s Island (GBA)-2.83m

Yoshi Topsy Turvy-less than 1m

Yoshi Touch & Go-less than 1m

Yoshi’s Island DS-3.36m

Yoshi’s New Island-2.06m

Yoshi’s Woolly World-1.57m

Yoshi’s Crafted World-3.35m

Fire Emblem series

Before Awakening-all under 1m

Awakening-2.37m

Fates-3.09m

Echoes-1.00m

Three Houses-4.12m

Engage-1.68m

Splatoon Series

Splatoon-4.95m

Splatoon 2-13.60m

Splatoon 3-11.96m

Switch Sports-18.32m

Pokopia-over 4 million

Zelda updated ports/remakes

Ocarina of Time 3D-6.44m

Majora’s Mask 3D-3.46m

Wind Waker HD-2.37m

Twilight Princess HD-1.17m

Link’s Awakening-6.63m

Skyward Sword HD-4.15m

To summarize, Nintendo currently has 8 exclusives scheduled to release this year for Switch 2

Mario Tennis, Yoshi, Star Fox & Fire Emblem are all franchises that have sold over 4 million at their best but under 1 million at their worst. Assuming that they all review favorably and since they’re not releasing on a dead/dying console, they should all sell in the 2-5 million range.

As for the other titles, Pokopia did over 4 million in a month and should be an evergreen title. Splatoon Raiders is hard to guess, will it have the same appeal as Splat 2/3 which each did over 12 million or will it be treated like a smaller, side release? Even if it has a large drop from its predecessor, Sports Resort should be a big seller. Considering how well OoT 3D & Link’s Awakening remake each sold over 6 million, a full fledged OoT remake should do even higher. All four of these titles have potential to sell 10+ million.

Which is a fair POV for most casual fans. Some people do literally wait for a new Mario or new Zelda to even decide to buy the console. MPrime4 is not gonna get them hyped. DKBananza is not a deal maker. A new Yoshi game is not in their radar 

NS2 has plenty of games, sure, but id be disingenuous if I tell you they are all on the same level. Casual players are married to speciffic IPs