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shavenferret said:

Trump started talking literal nonsense and aides had to rush reporters out of the room.

Sundowning?
Not enough naps?
Ministroke?
Is the end of Trump sooner than we all think?


https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/trump-aides-rush-reporters-out-1963051.amp

Meanwhile, Trump and his followers are re-litigating all of their grievances from 2020 as a distraction from high gas prices resulting from the Iran War, which is turning into an absolute quagmire.

- carrying out a thorough character assassination of Dr. Fauci. Trump was ultimately in charge of the COVID response. MAGA has vacillated from calling COVID fake to claiming Fauci has killed a number of people that would be plausible only in China or India. 

- Election denialism. In Arizona, all of the Republican challengers to the Democratic leadership team are election denialists, and Andy Biggs had a hand in J6. Thankfully, Kalshi has Katie Hobbs at 88 percent odds of being re-elected, and the Democrats have a chance to flip two house seats - sadly, one of them is not Biggs’s old district, AZ-5, where the likely winner is sex scandal-plagued former sheriff Mark Lamb, which is considered safe red. But then again, Chandler, which is in AZ-5,  elected a Democratic mayor for the first time in 36 years. Convicted felon Tina Peters is being wined and dined at the White Houss, and Trump is once again pushing a slush fund for pardoned J6 sedition it’s. 



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Vivek Ramaswamy, who is the Republican nominee for governor of Ohio, got booed off stage by his own supposed MAGA supporters.

Ramaswamy has a real chance of losing to Amy Acton in reliably red Ohio. The sad thing is, if he loses, it wouldn’t be for the reason he should lose, i.e. that he’s a billionaire grifter who is going to strip Ohio for parts if he wins. He’ll lose because MAGA has been ginning up anti-Asian racism against India and China in particular, in India’s case over H1B visas.

MAGA star flees after trainwreck speech to home crowd -Daily Beast 



Torillian said:
Jimbo1337 said:

Actually, New Jersey Governor Mikie Sherrill recently announced that thousands of non-citizens were mistakenly registered to vote due to a state software glitch, and nearly 400 of them cast ballots. This proves that vulnerabilities do exist under current systems. Consequently, individuals who vote in violation of current laws should face criminal charges, voter rolls must be updated to remove ineligible names, and implementing preventive legislation is a logical next step to address these concerns at the source.

I'm glad we agree. That's exactly why voting against democratic socialists is necessary to keep them from getting into power and enacting those policies.

To my mind the New Jersey incident is evidence that things are working fine. The systems as they are found it and have corrected it and the amount of voting was small enough that it didn't affect anything. 

Do we need national legislation to try and avoid 400 already illegal votes?

Only unfortunate part about all this is the timing means some will latch on to it. 

It’s also worth looking at the scale of what we consider a threat to our elections. Back in 2016, a major focus was placed on the 26 Russian nationals indicted for trying to influence the election, and there was broad agreement that we needed urgent action to protect our system from foreign interference. If 26 foreign nationals warrant national concern and policy shifts, then nearly 400 non-citizens actually casting ballots through a state system failure is a vulnerability we shouldn't dismiss just because the number seems small. Security should be consistent, whether the vulnerability comes from foreign hackers or domestic software glitches.



Jimbo1337 said:
Torillian said:

To my mind the New Jersey incident is evidence that things are working fine. The systems as they are found it and have corrected it and the amount of voting was small enough that it didn't affect anything. 

Do we need national legislation to try and avoid 400 already illegal votes?

Only unfortunate part about all this is the timing means some will latch on to it. 

It’s also worth looking at the scale of what we consider a threat to our elections. Back in 2016, a major focus was placed on the 26 Russian nationals indicted for trying to influence the election, and there was broad agreement that we needed urgent action to protect our system from foreign interference. If 26 foreign nationals warrant national concern and policy shifts, then nearly 400 non-citizens actually casting ballots through a state system failure is a vulnerability we shouldn't dismiss just because the number seems small. Security should be consistent, whether the vulnerability comes from foreign hackers or domestic software glitches.

I don't know the details well enough to comment in further detail, but 26 individuals trying to affect the outcome can definitely sway way more than 400 voters if the know what they're doing.