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Zkuq 7 hours ago
SanAndreasX said:
SvennoJ said:

Kamala would simply have continued Biden's policy towards the ME. Trump did get Israel to reduce the pace of the genocide in Gaza. Dunno if Kamala would have followed Netanyahu into attacking Iran though, but remember Israel started the 12 day war without the US before. The one refreshing thing about Trump is that he blabs many of the real intentions out loud. The democrats with Biden did as much damage with sanctions as Trump with tarifs, Democrats are waging an economic war on the world just as much, yet cover it up better. Same for immigration. Difference is Trump does it more openly to gather support from his fascist base.

Is there no 3rd party in the US that can promote change and get votes. Labor in the UK is getting rightfully slaughtered, yet there it's not a pendulum for the other side of the coin to continue. Not that the green party has a track record, but maybe some change can come from it.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/08/greens-unseat-labour-to-win-mayoral-election-in-hackney-zoe-garbett

Two party politics are the core of the problems in the USA, both parties are in servitude of the same oligarch masters. So yeah, proportional representation according to popular vote is needed in the USA, abandon the winner takes all nonsense. That solves gerrymandering as well, obsolete. Plus removal of the president/PM on a no confidence vote like in better working democracies.

Third parties are not viable in the U.S. system. Furthermore, the third parties that do exist, suck more than the Democrats do, and are not worth throwing my vote away on. I also live in a swing state, and there is no fucking way in hell that I want Andy Biggs as my governor, Gina Swoboda as my Secretary of State, or Warren Peterson as my AG. Katie Hobbs, Adrian Fontes, and Kris Mayes have done a solid enough job at sheltering Arizona from some of the worst excesses of the Trump administration, as much as can be expected. Biggs will throw the door wide open for Trump and his bullshit. 

As I said, I am in accord with proportional representation and confidence votes. However, these things would require Constitutional amendments to change. It only takes 12 states out of 50 to block a Constitutional amendment, and the South + the Upper Plains exceeds that threshold by a large measure. 

Basically pick the lesser evil or have fun with death and destruction (i.e. revolution). I feel sorry for your country, because it seems really broken to me. Obviously it has its good sides as well, but it seems to have some really deep issues, including not being able to fix them without something quite drastic happening.



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Bofferbrauer2 6 hours ago
SvennoJ said:

Anyone actually think the democrats will do better / fix things? US needs a revolution to rid itself from psycho billionaires pulling the strings. Democrats are just the other side of the same coin.

Let me put it this way: There's practically no way they can do worse than the current administration, so yes, they will do better.

Now, if the question would have been if they will do good, that's an entirely different thing, and as long as there ain't any candidates running, we'll have no way of knowing.



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SvennoJ 4 hours ago
Bofferbrauer2 said:
SvennoJ said:

Anyone actually think the democrats will do better / fix things? US needs a revolution to rid itself from psycho billionaires pulling the strings. Democrats are just the other side of the same coin.

Let me put it this way: There's practically no way they can do worse than the current administration, so yes, they will do better.

Now, if the question would have been if they will do good, that's an entirely different thing, and as long as there ain't any candidates running, we'll have no way of knowing.

I don't share your enthusiasm, burned too many times thinking it can't get any worse. Is it already too far in the past that genocide Joe made it possible for Trump to get re-elected. 1.18 million Covid deaths in the US weren't enough never to see Trump in office again, nor felony convictions.