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haxxiy said:

Meanwhile you'll have a lot of computer chips being drawn in blue states for 2028:

A perfectly stable democracy, y'all.

The US democracy is perfectly balanced with no exploits.

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Bofferbrauer2 said:
haxxiy said:

Meanwhile you'll have a lot of computer chips being drawn in blue states for 2028:

A perfectly stable democracy, y'all.

The US democracy is perfectly balanced with no exploits.

I see what you did there. Thanks a lot, ObamaYouTube. (To be fair, it's not a bad channel.)



tRump is once again saying out loud he’s gonna try to steal the midterms by purging voter rolls. Oh, and in typical tRump fashion, he’s once again projecting, to nobody’s shock.

It’s like they know they’re fucked in the midterms. That’s why they’re literally doing everything in their power to steal them. Or cancel them.

But yeah, blue midterm tsunami then this in 2028:

would be the most karmic thing ever for the Pedophile-in-Chief. Newsom wouldn’t even be my top choice for the 2028 nominee/pres-elect personally (I’ll probably vote for Shapiro in the primary), but it would be the most soul-crushing thing ever for Dumb Dumb that I partly hope it happens.

Seriously:

Oh, and speaking of projecting. “Can’t read? Accused of being a racist?” Bruh, I can’t even.

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Anyone actually think the democrats will do better / fix things? US needs a revolution to rid itself from psycho billionaires pulling the strings. Democrats are just the other side of the same coin.



SvennoJ said:

Anyone actually think the democrats will do better / fix things? US needs a revolution to rid itself from psycho billionaires pulling the strings. Democrats are just the other side of the same coin.

1000% they'd do better, whether or not they'll fix things is dependent on what you are specifically referencing. 



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SvennoJ said:

Anyone actually think the democrats will do better / fix things? US needs a revolution to rid itself from psycho billionaires pulling the strings. Democrats are just the other side of the same coin.

Depends on which Democrats get elected. If the establishment wins then the oligarchical status quo will largely continue, but at least we won't have the openly, cartoonishly corrupt kleptocracy we have now. If we get an actual progressive in the White House (backed by a blue and amenable Congress) then we may get some meaningful change, but establishment Dems have shown that they would literally rather have an open fascist in power than an actual progressive. 



SvennoJ said:

Anyone actually think the democrats will do better / fix things? US needs a revolution to rid itself from psycho billionaires pulling the strings. Democrats are just the other side of the same coin.

Revolutions are a lot messier than they look like on paper. 

Will they do better? On most issues, yes. Kamala would not have done crap like threaten to annex Canada/Greenland/Venezuela/Panama/Gaza. She also wouldn't have masked stormtroopers picking up brown people at random. There would still be deportations, and that system would still be very imperfect, but it would be somewhat more humane. 

As for "fixing" things - what does that look like, exactly?

Unfortunately, things like gerrymandering and the Electoral College aren't going away because they are baked into the Constitution. The South and the sparsely populated upper plains/mountain states like Wyoming and the Dakotas aren't going to give that stuff up without massive bloodshed. For my part, I would prefer proportional representation in the House, which would solve gerrymandering, and curtailing the powers of the Senate and making the House the primary focus of the government. Having an upper legislative house that has as much power as the U.S. Senate is definitely an anomaly. In most countries, senates are largely advisory bodies that only really step in in times of crisis. I'd also like to see snap elections and confidence votes  (again, House only) implemented, but again, the South and Plains will not give that up without a war. 



SvennoJ said:

Anyone actually think the democrats will do better / fix things? US needs a revolution to rid itself from psycho billionaires pulling the strings. Democrats are just the other side of the same coin.

Western revolutions needed in many such cases...



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

SanAndreasX said:
SvennoJ said:

Anyone actually think the democrats will do better / fix things? US needs a revolution to rid itself from psycho billionaires pulling the strings. Democrats are just the other side of the same coin.

Revolutions are a lot messier than they look like on paper. 

Will they do better? On most issues, yes. Kamala would not have done crap like threaten to annex Canada/Greenland/Venezuela/Panama/Gaza. She also wouldn't have masked stormtroopers picking up brown people at random. There would still be deportations, and that system would still be very imperfect, but it would be somewhat more humane. 

As for "fixing" things - what does that look like, exactly?

Unfortunately, things like gerrymandering and the Electoral College aren't going away because they are baked into the Constitution. The South and the sparsely populated upper plains/mountain states like Wyoming and the Dakotas aren't going to give that stuff up without massive bloodshed. For my part, I would prefer proportional representation in the House, which would solve gerrymandering, and curtailing the powers of the Senate and making the House the primary focus of the government. Having an upper legislative house that has as much power as the U.S. Senate is definitely an anomaly. In most countries, senates are largely advisory bodies that only really step in in times of crisis. I'd also like to see snap elections and confidence votes  (again, House only) implemented, but again, the South and Plains will not give that up without a war. 

Kamala would simply have continued Biden's policy towards the ME. Trump did get Israel to reduce the pace of the genocide in Gaza. Dunno if Kamala would have followed Netanyahu into attacking Iran though, but remember Israel started the 12 day war without the US before. The one refreshing thing about Trump is that he blabs many of the real intentions out loud. The democrats with Biden did as much damage with sanctions as Trump with tarifs, Democrats are waging an economic war on the world just as much, yet cover it up better. Same for immigration. Difference is Trump does it more openly to gather support from his fascist base.

Is there no 3rd party in the US that can promote change and get votes. Labor in the UK is getting rightfully slaughtered, yet there it's not a pendulum for the other side of the coin to continue. Not that the green party has a track record, but maybe some change can come from it.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/08/greens-unseat-labour-to-win-mayoral-election-in-hackney-zoe-garbett

Two party politics are the core of the problems in the USA, both parties are in servitude of the same oligarch masters. So yeah, proportional representation according to popular vote is needed in the USA, abandon the winner takes all nonsense. That solves gerrymandering as well, obsolete. Plus removal of the president/PM on a no confidence vote like in better working democracies.

I don't think Democrats will do much better on most issues, they'll just slow the pace of the further decline into plutocracy and fascism, hide it better from the public with some social concessions to their base. Then 4 years later it swings back to the Republicans again, never ending cycle or reversing domestic policies while plundering and oppressing the world (inc US citizens) regardless.

But we'll see what happens while the oil prices keep going up and food shortages are driving up food prices from both transportation and fertilizer costs. Israel is determined to keep the Strait of Hormuz closed to get Cyprus and Greece to participate in IMEC and sabotage BRI. Of course sabotaging Asia is sabotaging the American consumer just as much as everything will keep going up in price.

What's the chance a democrat getting in power that will say no to Israel? That is if it's all not simply a blame shifting play. The oligarchs in the US are making billions from higher oil prices, they don't care about the avg citizen. Trump just said it out loud in the latest report from Rifat Jawaid:
https://youtu.be/D-yXi1geTiI?t=631

As long as this goes on, US won't change course: In the 2024 election cycle, AIPAC's PAC and affiliated Super PAC, the United Democracy Project (UDP), supported 152 Democrats, contributing over $28 million.

Anyway I'm divesting from the US, in the process of switching from global funds to Canadian and EurAsian funds. Cut out the cancer. It's not much, yet just boycotting at the supermarket and cancelling US based subscriptions is not enough.



SvennoJ said:
SanAndreasX said:

Revolutions are a lot messier than they look like on paper. 

Will they do better? On most issues, yes. Kamala would not have done crap like threaten to annex Canada/Greenland/Venezuela/Panama/Gaza. She also wouldn't have masked stormtroopers picking up brown people at random. There would still be deportations, and that system would still be very imperfect, but it would be somewhat more humane. 

As for "fixing" things - what does that look like, exactly?

Unfortunately, things like gerrymandering and the Electoral College aren't going away because they are baked into the Constitution. The South and the sparsely populated upper plains/mountain states like Wyoming and the Dakotas aren't going to give that stuff up without massive bloodshed. For my part, I would prefer proportional representation in the House, which would solve gerrymandering, and curtailing the powers of the Senate and making the House the primary focus of the government. Having an upper legislative house that has as much power as the U.S. Senate is definitely an anomaly. In most countries, senates are largely advisory bodies that only really step in in times of crisis. I'd also like to see snap elections and confidence votes  (again, House only) implemented, but again, the South and Plains will not give that up without a war. 

Kamala would simply have continued Biden's policy towards the ME. Trump did get Israel to reduce the pace of the genocide in Gaza. Dunno if Kamala would have followed Netanyahu into attacking Iran though, but remember Israel started the 12 day war without the US before. The one refreshing thing about Trump is that he blabs many of the real intentions out loud. The democrats with Biden did as much damage with sanctions as Trump with tarifs, Democrats are waging an economic war on the world just as much, yet cover it up better. Same for immigration. Difference is Trump does it more openly to gather support from his fascist base.

Is there no 3rd party in the US that can promote change and get votes. Labor in the UK is getting rightfully slaughtered, yet there it's not a pendulum for the other side of the coin to continue. Not that the green party has a track record, but maybe some change can come from it.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/08/greens-unseat-labour-to-win-mayoral-election-in-hackney-zoe-garbett

Two party politics are the core of the problems in the USA, both parties are in servitude of the same oligarch masters. So yeah, proportional representation according to popular vote is needed in the USA, abandon the winner takes all nonsense. That solves gerrymandering as well, obsolete. Plus removal of the president/PM on a no confidence vote like in better working democracies.

Third parties are not viable in the U.S. system. Furthermore, the third parties that do exist, suck more than the Democrats do, and are not worth throwing my vote away on. I also live in a swing state, and there is no fucking way in hell that I want Andy Biggs as my governor, Gina Swoboda as my Secretary of State, or Warren Peterson as my AG. Katie Hobbs, Adrian Fontes, and Kris Mayes have done a solid enough job at sheltering Arizona from some of the worst excesses of the Trump administration, as much as can be expected. Biggs will throw the door wide open for Trump and his bullshit. 

As I said, I am in accord with proportional representation and confidence votes. However, these things would require Constitutional amendments to change. It only takes 12 states out of 50 to block a Constitutional amendment, and the South + the Upper Plains exceeds that threshold by a large measure. 

Last edited by SanAndreasX - on 14 May 2026