After watching Peter Pan & Wendy and Aladdin live action - I cant blame them lol

They made the main male characters look like complete clowns that played more of a background character than as a leading role.

Aladdin for an example, they should of just rename the movie "Genie and Jasmine".

Its like they cant properly write male characters anymore and it shows in movies like Maleficent and Toy Story 4 as well.

Also their obsession with making villains more heroic and the audience more empathetic is kinda weird. Maleficent, Cruella and recently I watched Mufasa.

What I like the most about Disney are their comics. In my teens I used to purchase a lot of Mickey, Donald, Uncle Scrooge and other comic books.

Some time ago, after a couple of years, I got a new comic book just to check if they had destroyed that too. Fortunately, the stories are still decent. Not on Carl Barks level of greatness, but nevertheless, I could still read it.

I think a return to 2D feature films would appeal to a lot of people, not just young men. The Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh were the last 2D animated films from the core animation studio. It's past time for more.

If anything I think this is completely backwards.

Making movies for "nerds" (ie: boys) only is what's killing Hollywood.

No wonder box office is going down the toilet when you're trying to force feed this same audience 10000 superhero movies. You need to get back to bringing in people who like other freaking genres, most notably WOMEN.

All these studios have been chasing nothing but tent pole films for the same dork audience and it's starting to bite them in the ass because they've let other genres die.

Look at the top box office for a year like 1990:

1. Ghost
2. Pretty Woman
3. Home Alone (released late 1990)
4. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
5. The Hunt For Red October
6. Total Recall
7. Die Hard 2
8. Driving Ms. Daisy
9. Dick Tracy
10. Back to the Future III

There's something for everyone there, drama, romantic comedy, family comedy, action, even some comic book stuff but not too much of it. Only two sequels in the top 10 and you have Pretty Woman making Julia Roberts into a massive movie star for the next decade+. 

Today it's just nothing but the same fucking comic book IP + animated kids films. Even that KPop Demon Hunters this weekend apparently had a good weekend ... I'm good with that. At least it's *something* different bringing in a different audience. I don't give a rat's ass about that movie, but at least it's something different. 

Less superheroes, less Star Wars, less Jurassic Park, Toy Story ended fine with 3 we didn't need 4 or 5, we need other IPs and even things for other audiences. Barbie + Oppenheimer was great for that, the movie industry needs more of *that*. As much as dorks will groan about it, the movie industry so badly needs a TITANIC type of movie to come along and dominate and have a huge run at the box office. It's needs that type of thing, not another fucking "3rd reboot of the X-Men!!!! Are you hyped!!!!" nonsense. 

They've literally made more money than any movie publisher in the past 15 years. Mostly from Men.

People aren't buying into Marvel Movies anymore because it's not pandering to young men anymore, it's because they're continuing to make bad movies long after people have grown tired of superheros that aren't spiderman, superman and batman

Yeah. And funny enough TMNT is Fathom's best classic release this year so much that it's getting another week. It's already made at least 3.3 million USD which is pretty significant for an old film you can easily buy brand new physically or rent or buy digitally. 

Secret of the Ooze is getting a 35th Anniversary release in early 2026.

The take away there shouldn't be Ninja Turtles though. The take away should be things like Ghost and Pretty Woman and Home Alone. 

Hollywood's hyper fixation on basically "nerd IP" for the last 10-15 years has destroyed the market for other types of films and now they are reaping what they've sown. 

You can't just cater to one audience. 

Even this summer ... Lilo & Stitch is the no.1 movie of the summer .... not Superman or Fantastic 4 or Mission: Impossible. 

If movie theaters are going to have any kind of future, it's imperative that women start coming back and going to the movies, a sausage fest of dorks is just going to lead to an inevitable decline. You can see like Superman did OK actually in the US but the international box office is dismal, internationally I think audiences are tuning out of superheroes. 

And I get that sense from "regular folks" too ... they're done with superhero movies and the 80th Star Wars movie or whatever, it's hard to constantly care about Iron Man or Batman's problems for the 50th time. It has no relevance to most people's lives and especially if you're not a so-called "male dork" you don't have the same kind of nostalgia for those properties either. 

I get from Disney's POV that they want to keep that male-dork audience because they made an awful lot of money especially from 2015-2020 with them, but I would say it's been  the net detriment of the overall movie business. Also I will add I don't think the superhero surge of say 2008-2019 (Iron Man to Avengers Endgame) is over and not happening again. Will things like Avengers Doomsday with like the novelty of like 30 superheroes still do well? Sure, but the days of releasing just a "good superhero" movie and sitting back and watching the huge dollars come in are over. That new Fantastic 4 was pretty good honestly, but it's just like hard to get excited about the same shit for the 3rd, 4th time. 

While I fully agree and want more variety than just superhero stuff and think that concentration on this genre came to the detriment of other genres, there seems to be something missing from the equation, as far as I can tell.

1) The "male-dork-audience" as you call them would have happily continued giving big bucks to cinemas. But these movies stopped catering to their tastes. If studios stopped with the feminisation and "en-wokening" of these movies, men would still watch them.

2) There is still other stuff out there. Lots of it actually. It is just not watched as much. I went to the cinemas for Naked Gun, which was a lot of fun. And I saw Holy Cow, which was alright. But just because men cannot keep cinemas open because all the movies they would be super interested in are shit, does not mean that other demographics and groups could not pick up the slack.

The thing with the superhero genre is there was always going to be a downturn no matter what. If anything, Disney is guilty of doing these movies *too well*, I mean after Avengers Endgame where can you go to top that? You can't do it much better than that, there's no where to go but down. It's not like all the 2008-2019 era superhero movies were gems either ... Thor 2, Iron Man 2, Ant-Man, etc. I mean some of these movies were very mid to dull, honestly that new Fantastic 4 is a better movie that those 3 examples, it's probably better than Avengers Age of Ultron too. 

But it's just too much. How much can you expect people to invest into the 37th MCU movie? How many times can you reboot the same characters? Seeing Tim Burton's take on Batman in 1989 was thrilling compared to the camp 1960s TV series, seeing the 3rd or 4th or whatever grimdark Batman we're on now is not that interesting anymore. 

The problem is the studios all went chasing this same audience to the exclusion of everyone else and didn't greenlight even projects for other audiences and those other audiences have just stopped going to the theater. They could have made a new Naked Gun ten years ago, that Space Balls sequel that's coming, great, but really that should've come out like 10-15 years ago. 

Even though horror is a bit of a tired genre too it's ironically probably  more grounded in some kind of reality than superhero movies are, so I'm glad to see something original and new like Weapons doing well at the box office. Sinners did well earlier in the year also. Things like that are much needed. 

For theaters to remain viable other audiences need to be catered to, just making Marvel and Star Wars movies the way the same tired audience wants them is not the answer. Like you make those IP less female leaning and so what? You're just doing what you were doing 10 years ago then. That's not a viable path forward either.