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Soundwave on 24 August 2025
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Wman1996 said:
Soundwave said:

If anything I think this is completely backwards.

Making movies for "nerds" (ie: boys) only is what's killing Hollywood.

No wonder box office is going down the toilet when you're trying to force feed this same audience 10000 superhero movies. You need to get back to bringing in people who like other freaking genres, most notably WOMEN.

All these studios have been chasing nothing but tent pole films for the same dork audience and it's starting to bite them in the ass because they've let other genres die.

Look at the top box office for a year like 1990:

1. Ghost
2. Pretty Woman
3. Home Alone (released late 1990)
4. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
5. The Hunt For Red October
6. Total Recall
7. Die Hard 2
8. Driving Ms. Daisy
9. Dick Tracy
10. Back to the Future III

There's something for everyone there, drama, romantic comedy, family comedy, action, even some comic book stuff but not too much of it. Only two sequels in the top 10 and you have Pretty Woman making Julia Roberts into a massive movie star for the next decade+. 

Today it's just nothing but the same fucking comic book IP + animated kids films. Even that KPop Demon Hunters this weekend apparently had a good weekend ... I'm good with that. At least it's *something* different bringing in a different audience. I don't give a rat's ass about that movie, but at least it's something different. 

Less superheroes, less Star Wars, less Jurassic Park, Toy Story ended fine with 3 we didn't need 4 or 5, we need other IPs and even things for other audiences. Barbie + Oppenheimer was great for that, the movie industry needs more of *that*. As much as dorks will groan about it, the movie industry so badly needs a TITANIC type of movie to come along and dominate and have a huge run at the box office. It's needs that type of thing, not another fucking "3rd reboot of the X-Men!!!! Are you hyped!!!!" nonsense. 

Yeah. And funny enough TMNT is Fathom's best classic release this year so much that it's getting another week. It's already made at least 3.3 million USD which is pretty significant for an old film you can easily buy brand new physically or rent or buy digitally. 

Secret of the Ooze is getting a 35th Anniversary release in early 2026.

The take away there shouldn't be Ninja Turtles though. The take away should be things like Ghost and Pretty Woman and Home Alone. 

Hollywood's hyper fixation on basically "nerd IP" for the last 10-15 years has destroyed the market for other types of films and now they are reaping what they've sown. 

You can't just cater to one audience. 

Even this summer ... Lilo & Stitch is the no.1 movie of the summer .... not Superman or Fantastic 4 or Mission: Impossible. 

If movie theaters are going to have any kind of future, it's imperative that women start coming back and going to the movies, a sausage fest of dorks is just going to lead to an inevitable decline. You can see like Superman did OK actually in the US but the international box office is dismal, internationally I think audiences are tuning out of superheroes. 

And I get that sense from "regular folks" too ... they're done with superhero movies and the 80th Star Wars movie or whatever, it's hard to constantly care about Iron Man or Batman's problems for the 50th time. It has no relevance to most people's lives and especially if you're not a so-called "male dork" you don't have the same kind of nostalgia for those properties either. 

I get from Disney's POV that they want to keep that male-dork audience because they made an awful lot of money especially from 2015-2020 with them, but I would say it's been  the net detriment of the overall movie business. Also I will add I don't think the superhero surge of say 2008-2019 (Iron Man to Avengers Endgame) is over and not happening again. Will things like Avengers Doomsday with like the novelty of like 30 superheroes still do well? Sure, but the days of releasing just a "good superhero" movie and sitting back and watching the huge dollars come in are over. That new Fantastic 4 was pretty good honestly, but it's just like hard to get excited about the same shit for the 3rd, 4th time. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 24 August 2025