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HoloDust said:
redkong said:

I haven't even down played switch 2 hardware. Just looking at the game released it seems like a PS4 with DLSS, I was told the CPU is 2x PS4, and that it more powerful then pro, mean while almost every demanding game is 1080p and running the same frames as PS4. I will say the hardware is between PS4 and PRO just like DF said. Looking at recent games almost everything is struggling to hold a 30fps that's struggling to me, I'm not gonna sugar coat it.

You keep parroting that "between PS4 and PS4 Pro". It's not. Just like it's not "trading blows with XSS" and "OMG, this looks like PS5". Throw 8th gen technology at it, and chances are there are aspects in which PS4 will beat it. Throw 9th gen tech at it and it will perform better. It sits in some weird quantum state inbetween PS4 and XSS, depending on the game and developers involved.

It's almost like using PS4 and "PS4 Pro" as benchmarks for anything was stupid to begin with. 

Those are not the be all, end all of hardware, a Steam Deck runs tons of PS5 games, comparing to a PS4 doesn't tell you what kinds of games hardware can run today.

The architecture of the chipset and what generation that is from is as important as anything else, the Switch 2's architecture is modern. 

This is not 2001 anymore, you can't define hardware in those kinds of terms like "this is a PS2 tier game! And that's only PS1!". It doesn't work that simply any more. 

A lot of so-called "tech experts" here or people who fashion themselves as such are living like 15-20 years in the past when it comes to game hardware. A lot of these same "experts" two years ago here around Gamescom time were yelling loudly that there's no way the report of the Switch 2 running the Matrix Unreal 5 engine could be true. Now today, probably a lot of the people who were crowing about that loudly likely don't want to say much because it looks probable that The Matrix demo can probably run on the Switch 2 based on what we're seeing. 

Another pro tip to the "I'm a Nintendo Expert because I've owned a few Nintendo consoles" crowd ... you can take whatever you think you know about their hardware philosophy and largely throw in the garbage when there's a change in the president. The Yamauchi era was very different from the Iwata era and Furukawa's time as president is already very different from Iwata's era. A lot of people crowed long and hard about things like "Nintendo can't unveil hardware and release in the same year!", "Nintendo won't make a system that's more than $400 max!", "the system will be massively underpowered cuz Nintendo!". Wrong, wrong, wrong, and I called this 1-2 years ago. Once Nintendo has a new president, all bets are off and you better get ready for changes. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 23 August 2025

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Soundwave said:
HoloDust said:

You keep parroting that "between PS4 and PS4 Pro". It's not. Just like it's not "trading blows with XSS" and "OMG, this looks like PS5". Throw 8th gen technology at it, and chances are there are aspects in which PS4 will beat it. Throw 9th gen tech at it and it will perform better. It sits in some weird quantum state inbetween PS4 and XSS, depending on the game and developers involved.

It's almost like using PS4 and "PS4 Pro" as benchmarks for anything was stupid to begin with. 

Those are not the be all, end all of hardware, a Steam Deck runs tons of PS5 games, comparing to a PS4 doesn't tell you what kinds of games hardware can run today.

The architecture of the chipset and what generation that is from is as important as anything else, the Switch 2's architecture is modern. 

This is not 2001 anymore, you can't define hardware in those kinds of terms like "this is a PS2 tier game! And that's only PS1!". It doesn't work that simply any more. 

A lot of so-called "tech experts" here or people who fashion themselves as such are living like 15-20 years in the past when it comes to game hardware. A lot of these same "experts" two years ago here around Gamescom time were yelling loudly that there's no way the report of the Switch 2 running the Matrix Unreal 5 engine could be true. Now today, probably a lot of the people who were crowing about that loudly likely don't want to say much because it looks probable that The Matrix demo can probably run on the Switch 2 based on what we're seeing. 

Another pro tip to the "I'm a Nintendo Expert because I've owned a few Nintendo consoles" crowd ... you can take whatever you think you know about their hardware philosophy and largely throw in the garbage when there's a change in the president. The Yamauchi era was very different from the Iwata era and Furukawa's time as president is already very different from Iwata's era. A lot of people crowed long and hard about things like "Nintendo can't unveil hardware and release in the same year!", "Nintendo won't make a system that's more than $400 max!", "the system will be massively underpowered cuz Nintendo!". Wrong, wrong, wrong, and I called this 1-2 years ago. Once Nintendo has a new president, all bets are off and you better get ready for changes. 

Coming from the guy who said cutting edge hardware that could be $600+, the dock + fan was game changing, S2 was series S....  dude you have been wrong about all of it.  

The S2 sacrificed power to hit price and is in the ps4 to ps4 pro power tier..... Iike many, 80% via the poll, predicted. 

If has been funny watching you pretend like you predicted otherwise.  

I still remember when you said the "big 3"  need to be afraid of Apple's M chip...  lol.

You have an amazing ability to be dead wrong while claiming victory.  You remind me of a certain commander in chief.  

Thing is being off on predictions isn't a big deal.  I was expecting $400 and base ps4.  We got $450 and ps4 pro.  So I was a bit under in my predictions. 

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 24 August 2025

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Chrkeller said:
Soundwave said:

It's almost like using PS4 and "PS4 Pro" as benchmarks for anything was stupid to begin with. 

Those are not the be all, end all of hardware, a Steam Deck runs tons of PS5 games, comparing to a PS4 doesn't tell you what kinds of games hardware can run today.

The architecture of the chipset and what generation that is from is as important as anything else, the Switch 2's architecture is modern. 

This is not 2001 anymore, you can't define hardware in those kinds of terms like "this is a PS2 tier game! And that's only PS1!". It doesn't work that simply any more. 

A lot of so-called "tech experts" here or people who fashion themselves as such are living like 15-20 years in the past when it comes to game hardware. A lot of these same "experts" two years ago here around Gamescom time were yelling loudly that there's no way the report of the Switch 2 running the Matrix Unreal 5 engine could be true. Now today, probably a lot of the people who were crowing about that loudly likely don't want to say much because it looks probable that The Matrix demo can probably run on the Switch 2 based on what we're seeing. 

Another pro tip to the "I'm a Nintendo Expert because I've owned a few Nintendo consoles" crowd ... you can take whatever you think you know about their hardware philosophy and largely throw in the garbage when there's a change in the president. The Yamauchi era was very different from the Iwata era and Furukawa's time as president is already very different from Iwata's era. A lot of people crowed long and hard about things like "Nintendo can't unveil hardware and release in the same year!", "Nintendo won't make a system that's more than $400 max!", "the system will be massively underpowered cuz Nintendo!". Wrong, wrong, wrong, and I called this 1-2 years ago. Once Nintendo has a new president, all bets are off and you better get ready for changes. 

Coming from the guy who said cutting edge hardware that could be $600+, the dock + fan was game changing, S2 was series S....  dude you have been wrong about all of it.  

The S2 sacrificed power to hit price and is in the ps4 to ps4 pro power tier..... Iike many, 80% via the poll, predicted. 

If has been funny watching you pretend like you predicted otherwise.  

I still remember when you said the "big 3"  need to be afraid of Apple's M chip...  lol.

You have an amazing ability to be dead wrong while claiming victory.  You remind me of a certain commander in chief.  

Thing is being off on predictions isn't a big deal.  I was expecting $400 and base ps4.  We got $450 and ps4 pro.  So I was a bit under in my predictions. 

You said the Switch 2 wouldn't even be able to run Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade when that rumor first came on these boards, you said that would be impossible because it was a PS5 game, lol. It can run that easily, not only that Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (the PS5 exclusive) is pretty much confirmed for the system too as the entire series is coming to the Switch 2 (direct from the game's director). 

You were dead wrong and part of the same tired "DON'T BE EXCITED ABOUT NINTENDO HARDWARE!!" brigade for two years non-stop because things like Wii and Wii U came in underpowered (products that were expressly made for casual gamers ... no shit). 

The system is significantly better than the boo birds made it out to be and there will be games 2-3 years into the system's product cycle that are even better than what we are seeing now. There will be lots of PS5 ports. We will get some iffy ports sure, but you will see some really good ones as time goes on also. 

Using the base PS4-PS4 Pro as a comparative to everything was stupid and useless to begin with, it tells you nothing about the kinds of games a hardware can run. The Steam Deck can run Spider-Man 2 from the PS5. This is not the PS1-PS2 era, you can't use hardware benchmarks in that way anymore as hardware architecture is what tells you moreso what games a hardware can run or not. You continuing to use this benchmark is stupid and I'm not the only one to point it out. "PS4 Pro" means nothing when you have tons of PS5/XSS only games on the system like Indiana Jones. 

Pro-tip too next time you want to pretend to be a "Nintendo hardware expert" actually go read up on the history of the company, particularly under the Yamauchi years, Nintendo didn't just start making hardware with the GameCube-Wii, it's tiresome to get lectured by people who think they know everything about Nintendo when they really don't know shit. Iwata is not the president any more and the entire board of directors is completely different, why did you assume Nintendo would just continue to operate the exact same way? 

If Apple wanted to make a big push into gaming with the M Series chips they easily could, those chips are extremely powerful, they just don't give a shit about gaming because it's a small market to them. They move 20-30 million iPhones (not even counting iPads)  every 3 months, game consoles don't even come close to that, the 15-17 million Playstations that Sony moves a year is dick all for Apple. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 24 August 2025

Soundwave said:
Chrkeller said:

Coming from the guy who said cutting edge hardware that could be $600+, the dock + fan was game changing, S2 was series S....  dude you have been wrong about all of it.  

The S2 sacrificed power to hit price and is in the ps4 to ps4 pro power tier..... Iike many, 80% via the poll, predicted. 

If has been funny watching you pretend like you predicted otherwise.  

I still remember when you said the "big 3"  need to be afraid of Apple's M chip...  lol.

You have an amazing ability to be dead wrong while claiming victory.  You remind me of a certain commander in chief.  

Thing is being off on predictions isn't a big deal.  I was expecting $400 and base ps4.  We got $450 and ps4 pro.  So I was a bit under in my predictions. 

You said the Switch 2 wouldn't even be able to run Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade when that rumor first came on these boards, you said that would be impossible because it was a PS5 game, lol. It can run that easily, not only that Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (the PS5 exclusive) is pretty much confirmed for the system too as the entire series is coming to the Switch 2 (direct from the game's director). 

You were dead wrong and part of the same tired "DON'T BE EXCITED ABOUT NINTENDO HARDWARE!!" brigade for two years non-stop because things like Wii and Wii U came in underpowered (products that were expressly made for casual gamers ... no shit). 

The system is significantly better than the boo birds made it out to be and there will be games 2-3 years into the system's product cycle that are even better than what we are seeing now. There will be lots of PS5 ports. We will get some iffy ports sure, but you will see some really good ones as time goes on also. 

Using the base PS4-PS4 Pro as a comparative to everything was stupid and useless to begin with, it tells you nothing about the kinds of games a hardware can run. The Steam Deck can run Spider-Man 2 from the PS5. This is not the PS1-PS2 era, you can't use hardware benchmarks in that way anymore as hardware architecture is what tells you moreso what games a hardware can run or not. You continuing to use this benchmark is stupid and I'm not the only one to point it out. "PS4 Pro" means nothing when you have tons of PS5 tier games on the system. 

Pro-tip too next time you want to pretend to be a "Nintendo hardware expert" actually go read up on the history of the company, particularly under the Yamauchi years, Nintendo didn't just start making hardware with the GameCube-Wii, it's tiresome to get lectured by people who think they know everything about Nintendo when they really don't know shit. Iwata is not the president any more and the entire board of directors is completely different, why did you assume Nintendo would just continue to operate the exact same way? 

If Apple wanted to make a big push into gaming with the M Series chips they easily could, those chips are extremely powerful, they just don't give a shit about gaming because it's a small market to them. They move 20-30 million iPhones (not even counting iPads)  every 3 months, game consoles don't even come close to that, the 15-17 million Playstations that Sony moves a year is dick all for Apple. 

No, I said it wouldn't run it like the ps5 and it doesn't.  

You put words in people's mouth.  

Either way I'm not derailing this thread with nonsense.  Anybody who wants to know what you've said can look it up.  My guess is most people don't care.  

And I predicted ps4 to ps4 pro in power....  which is where it landed.  And it is impressive for a handheld.

As for apple... lol.  I will leave it at that.  

And for the actual topic.  I'm glad Indiana is getting ported.  Hopefully it becomes a main stock franchise.  Especially since Uncharted and Tomb Raider seem to be MIA.  The game seems to run well and has a good engine, also quite scalable.  Hopefully it becomes a franchise.  

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You said Intergrade as a game on the Switch 2 would be impossible to port because its a PS5 tier title. Well it's ported and it has the PS5 tier lighting/effects too that aren't present in the PS4 version and even on top of that Square-Enix has essentially confirmed FF7 Rebirth on the system too, lol. 

Where on the PS4 Pro is Indiana Jones and Final Fantasy VII Rebirth and Starfield and Split Fiction and Wild Hearts?

It's a meaningless hardware metric, you just pulled it out of your butt and have been hammering that non-stop for 2 years when it means nothing. The hardware world doesn't revolve around the PS4 and PS4 Pro. 

The hardware architecture of a chip is what should be looked at first and foremost, the Switch 2's hardware architecture (Ampere) was always in line with what the PS5-XBox SS are and well beyond the PS4.

That's why ports like Indiana Jones, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Starfield, Split Fiction, current gen Madden NFL, MS Flight Simulator, (and tons more over the life span of the Switch 2) are going to be possible on Switch 2. Some ports will be good, some not so good, that's the same deal with virtually any kind of platform, you get out of it how much effort you're willing to put in. 

Maybe next time before trying to push yourself as an expert on a hardware chipset maybe pay attention to the architecture of said chip. That's kind of an important detail that you completely took for granted and didn't comprehend. An Ampere based chip unless completely crippled was always going  to have a hardware ceiling that allows it to run games the PS4 could not because it's of a completely different hardware generation. 

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sc94597 said:

Nice to see Switch 2 get another 9th-Gen only title. Will be interesting to see how well it runs and looks.

I'm sure it will look better than Mortal Kombat 1. I still cannot understand why WB would ever have a Switch port of that made when it skipped PS4 and Xbox One. Thankfully, MK1 has been improved greatly when playing on Switch 2. But Indy should give players a good experience to start and not rely on a future Switch 2 Pro or especially Switch 3.

Indy is probably going to be 900p/30fps, maybe in docked it will crack 1080p for the resolution. 



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sc94597 said:Y

I do agree though, the Switch 2 probably should have had 16GB. Not much reason why not given its cost, retail price, and the price of ram. Pretty much all mobile PC's have at least 16GB as well. 

I think Switch 2 should be fine RAM wise for a while, simply because most games are still going to be made to run on Series S which has less. 

According to a dev on Famiboards, there's apparently plans to get the OS down to 2GB, freeing up an extra GB for a total of 10, which isn't a million miles off from PS5/series X.



curl-6 said:
sc94597 said:Y

I do agree though, the Switch 2 probably should have had 16GB. Not much reason why not given its cost, retail price, and the price of ram. Pretty much all mobile PC's have at least 16GB as well. 

I think Switch 2 should be fine RAM wise for a while, simply because most games are still going to be made to run on Series S which has less. 

According to a dev on Famiboards, there's apparently plans to get the OS down to 2GB, freeing up an extra GB for a total of 10, which isn't a million miles off from PS5/series X.

S2 has 20% more ram but at 50% the speed, comparative to the S.  

Not sure total ram tells the entire story.  

And with the ps5, yeah the total ram is close, but the ps5 is 400% faster ram.  Again, not sure total ram tells the full story. 

12 gb is a bit on the low side, could hurt on the back half of the S2's life.

It doesn't help I think 16 gb total ram on the ps5 is showing its age.  

On PC taking up 10 to 12 gb of vram is quite easy to do.  And OS aside, ram is still needed for other functions.  

It does make wonder what the ps6 might target in ram, I kind of assume 32 gb.  I also think the ps6 will be delayed because a price effective jump is still a couple years away.  Add in cross generation games, the S2 might be in good shape for 4 to 5 years or so.  

Games are incredibly scalable these days, which is nice and good news for gamers.

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Chrkeller said:
curl-6 said:

I think Switch 2 should be fine RAM wise for a while, simply because most games are still going to be made to run on Series S which has less. 

According to a dev on Famiboards, there's apparently plans to get the OS down to 2GB, freeing up an extra GB for a total of 10, which isn't a million miles off from PS5/series X.

S2 has 20% more ram but at 50% the speed, comparative to the S.  

Not sure total ram tells the entire story.  

And with the ps5, yeah the total ram is close, but the ps5 is 400% faster ram.  Again, not sure total ram tells the full story. 

12 gb is a bit on the low side, could hurt on the back half of the S2's life.  

The conversation was about capacity.

Most major games are going to be coming out on Series S for the next several years, by the time support for the S stops it will probably be pretty late in Switch 2's lifespan and by then other limitations like the CPU will probably be the bigger issue.



curl-6 said:
Chrkeller said:

S2 has 20% more ram but at 50% the speed, comparative to the S.  

Not sure total ram tells the entire story.  

And with the ps5, yeah the total ram is close, but the ps5 is 400% faster ram.  Again, not sure total ram tells the full story. 

12 gb is a bit on the low side, could hurt on the back half of the S2's life.  

The conversation was about capacity.

Most major games are going to be coming out on Series S for the next several years, by the time support for the S stops it will probably be pretty late in Switch 2's lifespan and by then other limitations like the CPU will probably be the bigger issue.

And capacity is just one aspect.

I am curious about those MS rumors on next gen hardware.  Hard to say what MS will do and the impact it will have.  



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