Chrkeller said:
Soundwave said:
It's almost like using PS4 and "PS4 Pro" as benchmarks for anything was stupid to begin with.
Those are not the be all, end all of hardware, a Steam Deck runs tons of PS5 games, comparing to a PS4 doesn't tell you what kinds of games hardware can run today.
The architecture of the chipset and what generation that is from is as important as anything else, the Switch 2's architecture is modern.
This is not 2001 anymore, you can't define hardware in those kinds of terms like "this is a PS2 tier game! And that's only PS1!". It doesn't work that simply any more.
A lot of so-called "tech experts" here or people who fashion themselves as such are living like 15-20 years in the past when it comes to game hardware. A lot of these same "experts" two years ago here around Gamescom time were yelling loudly that there's no way the report of the Switch 2 running the Matrix Unreal 5 engine could be true. Now today, probably a lot of the people who were crowing about that loudly likely don't want to say much because it looks probable that The Matrix demo can probably run on the Switch 2 based on what we're seeing.
Another pro tip to the "I'm a Nintendo Expert because I've owned a few Nintendo consoles" crowd ... you can take whatever you think you know about their hardware philosophy and largely throw in the garbage when there's a change in the president. The Yamauchi era was very different from the Iwata era and Furukawa's time as president is already very different from Iwata's era. A lot of people crowed long and hard about things like "Nintendo can't unveil hardware and release in the same year!", "Nintendo won't make a system that's more than $400 max!", "the system will be massively underpowered cuz Nintendo!". Wrong, wrong, wrong, and I called this 1-2 years ago. Once Nintendo has a new president, all bets are off and you better get ready for changes.
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Coming from the guy who said cutting edge hardware that could be $600+, the dock + fan was game changing, S2 was series S.... dude you have been wrong about all of it.
The S2 sacrificed power to hit price and is in the ps4 to ps4 pro power tier..... Iike many, 80% via the poll, predicted.
If has been funny watching you pretend like you predicted otherwise.
I still remember when you said the "big 3" need to be afraid of Apple's M chip... lol.
You have an amazing ability to be dead wrong while claiming victory. You remind me of a certain commander in chief.
Thing is being off on predictions isn't a big deal. I was expecting $400 and base ps4. We got $450 and ps4 pro. So I was a bit under in my predictions.
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You said the Switch 2 wouldn't even be able to run Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade when that rumor first came on these boards, you said that would be impossible because it was a PS5 game, lol. It can run that easily, not only that Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (the PS5 exclusive) is pretty much confirmed for the system too as the entire series is coming to the Switch 2 (direct from the game's director).
You were dead wrong and part of the same tired "DON'T BE EXCITED ABOUT NINTENDO HARDWARE!!" brigade for two years non-stop because things like Wii and Wii U came in underpowered (products that were expressly made for casual gamers ... no shit).
The system is significantly better than the boo birds made it out to be and there will be games 2-3 years into the system's product cycle that are even better than what we are seeing now. There will be lots of PS5 ports. We will get some iffy ports sure, but you will see some really good ones as time goes on also.
Using the base PS4-PS4 Pro as a comparative to everything was stupid and useless to begin with, it tells you nothing about the kinds of games a hardware can run. The Steam Deck can run Spider-Man 2 from the PS5. This is not the PS1-PS2 era, you can't use hardware benchmarks in that way anymore as hardware architecture is what tells you moreso what games a hardware can run or not. You continuing to use this benchmark is stupid and I'm not the only one to point it out. "PS4 Pro" means nothing when you have tons of PS5/XSS only games on the system like Indiana Jones.
Pro-tip too next time you want to pretend to be a "Nintendo hardware expert" actually go read up on the history of the company, particularly under the Yamauchi years, Nintendo didn't just start making hardware with the GameCube-Wii, it's tiresome to get lectured by people who think they know everything about Nintendo when they really don't know shit. Iwata is not the president any more and the entire board of directors is completely different, why did you assume Nintendo would just continue to operate the exact same way?
If Apple wanted to make a big push into gaming with the M Series chips they easily could, those chips are extremely powerful, they just don't give a shit about gaming because it's a small market to them. They move 20-30 million iPhones (not even counting iPads) every 3 months, game consoles don't even come close to that, the 15-17 million Playstations that Sony moves a year is dick all for Apple.
Last edited by Soundwave - on 24 August 2025