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Bofferbrauer2 said:
KLXVER said:

There is only systematic racism if you believe some races are beneath others.

If there's a concept of races, then there is systemic racism.

Most people outside the US would consider people of another skin color or complexion a different ethnicity, but not a different race.

If I ever would have to fill out a form where they ask which race I belong to, I'd write down Homo Sapiens Sapiens - and dare them to say it's wrong, because if they would I'd sue them into oblivion for not even considering me a human being.

And funny thing, their system suck because wydm North Africans are all considered white and Arabs too ? I mean some have white skin but we are not European white. My aunt had to fill this up. Idk how that works 



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KLXVER said:
yanis-bnth said:

I think that systemic racism can exist and be unfair towards white people but not in Europe. In Africa or Asia of course it exists and discrimination against white people can exist tho.

Well that depends on what you personally find unfair. I mean can you think of many non white people that have been charged with hate speech or hate crimes in Europe?

I grabbed hate crime data from the UK because it was fairly easy to find and found that if you exclude cases where there is no ethnicity data on file, about 15% of hate crimes in the UK have a non-white perpetrator, which is roughly equal to the proportion of non-white individuals in the country.



sundin13 said:
KLXVER said:

Well that depends on what you personally find unfair. I mean can you think of many non white people that have been charged with hate speech or hate crimes in Europe?

I grabbed hate crime data from the UK because it was fairly easy to find and found that if you exclude cases where there is no ethnicity data on file, about 15% of hate crimes in the UK have a non-white perpetrator, which is roughly equal to the proportion of non-white individuals in the country.

Why would there be ethnicity data on some and not on others?



KLXVER said:
sundin13 said:

I grabbed hate crime data from the UK because it was fairly easy to find and found that if you exclude cases where there is no ethnicity data on file, about 15% of hate crimes in the UK have a non-white perpetrator, which is roughly equal to the proportion of non-white individuals in the country.

Why would there be no ethnicity data on some and not on others?

In virtually every data set, there will be some data missing. It is extremely common in police data due to different reporting requirements across jurisdictions, incomplete data entry and human error.

As a non-ethnicity related example: I found that for youth crime sentencing, age group data was not available in 8% of cases in the UK in 2024. 



sundin13 said:
KLXVER said:

Why would there be no ethnicity data on some and not on others?

In virtually every data set, there will be some data missing. It is extremely common in police data due to different reporting requirements across jurisdictions, incomplete data entry and human error.

As a non-ethnicity related example: I found that for youth crime sentencing, age group data was not available in 8% of cases in the UK in 2024. 

Fair enough. I trust the data. Im just sick of seeing white people being arressted in the UK over a tweet these days. I really shouldnt count on the media to keep me updated.



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Anger and hate generates more clicks, and clicks generate revenue, so social media purposefully promotes divisive and toxic content in order to make more money.



I remember people being racist on Internet well back to 2008 when I started using internet. Making jokes and memes with black celebrities,, calling them monkeys, etc

I think the difference is internet used to be different back in the today. There was no algorithms engine pushing this kind of post on social media. In recent times internet has given an unfathomable amount of repercution to hate speech

When people (who are secretly bigoted) sees a behavior that is considered socially unacceptable being repeated over and over they start to feel safe enough to reproduce said behavior, because they feel there is a platform where they won't be judged, at least not as harshly as they would in their social environment

And then we have an epidemic of racism on internet, where every person who would be otherwise silent start saying the most unhinged shit you can imagine



In terms of the amount it's not really much different on sites like Twitter compared to 5-10 years ago. Now it's more balanced instead of mainly being directed towards one group so it's a lot more representative of how the general populace actually feels instead of just a certain portion of it.



The goal of political parties is to create polarization. They want "reliable voters" that associate themselves intrinsically with one side or the other rather than people who question or think about individual policies. The more divided things are, the better. They aim their messages like arrows, targeted toward groups they can win over.

The main prize for the Left isn't actually minorities, it's well-off white people who want to feel magnanimous and charitable while still keeping the "wrong kind" of people out of their neighborhoods. They consider themselves to be the true representatives of whiteness and have abandoned the idea of equality because they define everyone by their differences first and foremost.

They're comfortable and secure enough in terms of status and wealth that they're not negatively affected by elevating someone else--they're still going to be at or near the top regardless. Since they think of themselves the avatars of white people, the troubles and concerns of lower class whites are dismissible. Thus they are fine with "equity" since they're not actually the one who feel the crunch when the bill comes due. They are the white people who have been through the lunch line, have gotten their food, then come back to tell the remaining white people to go to the back of the line to balance things out.

The Right has gleefully seized upon the bitterness this has created. Those who bang the drums the loudest in protest are the ones who love it the most because they can use it to their advantage. They know that the majority of the working class isn't on their computers all day, they're going to be less informed and easier to manipulate, and they take advantage. While the Left is much more subtle with their misinformation, usually by manipulating sources, the right can outright lie much easier.

It's a situation where loud voices on both sides are extremely biased, extremely prejudiced, and spread their toxicity like a disease. Race is one component of that but it bleeds into everything else, even when it shouldn't be the main factor, because it's the easiest target to hit from either direction.

I work in a large factory in the Southern United States that has had a racially diverse workforce for decades. I know white and black people who have been working here for 30+ years. What makes people of ANY color angry and resentful is the idea that they or their family is being placed in an unfair situation based on criteria out of their control. They don't care if it's in response to a situation that happened somewhere else, all the care about is that THEY are being hurt in response. As long as the mandates of equity keep unapologetically screwing people over, there will be bitterness that allows those who prey on such emotions to fan the flames into a bonfire.



yanis-bnth said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

If there's a concept of races, then there is systemic racism.

Most people outside the US would consider people of another skin color or complexion a different ethnicity, but not a different race.

If I ever would have to fill out a form where they ask which race I belong to, I'd write down Homo Sapiens Sapiens - and dare them to say it's wrong, because if they would I'd sue them into oblivion for not even considering me a human being.

And funny thing, their system suck because wydm North Africans are all considered white and Arabs too ? I mean some have white skin but we are not European white. My aunt had to fill this up. Idk how that works 

Europeans, North Africans, Arabs, and Indians (from India) too are descendants from the same offshoot of the group of people that left Africa in prehistoric times. The exterior differences like skin-tone is purely due to geography; Indians stayed in the sun and stayed darker, Northern Europeans didn’t and they became lighter.