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Does Nintendo need a system like this...

Yes. 17 43.59%
 
No. 22 56.41%
 
Maybe. Idk. I don't play ... 0 0%
 
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Hardstuck-Platinum said:
Shaunodon said:

The market leader in console gaming doesn't 'need' to do anything.

Nintendo are NOT the market leaders. When GTA6 launches, you'll see who the real market leader really is.

Switch sales say otherwise, and the multiple games selling over 10-20 million say otherwise. The Switch has had the most 10+ million sellers of any console ever. MS and Sony putting games on Switch but Nintendo giving them nothing says a lot.

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super_etecoon said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Someone above agreed they want one on Nintendo, I don't see the issue. However, I've changed the title to should, need is not the word I was looking for, yet I do want to imply that they would benefit from it in the question, cause they clearly would. Trophies move games on PS, that's a fact, Nintendo is in the business of selling games so an ecosystem where all the junk indie games actually sell with a system like trophies, even if it is for reasons you don't agree with is a good thing for them and the devs. Sony can't regulate trophies on PS now, if they did they would be working against themselves by getting rid of whales buying insta plats and ruining devs wholes business models. It's shit but we can ignore it and engage with the system casually, pick and choose and let the people who get obsessed to that degree run wild, they are enjoying it seemingly so why not. 

“Trophies move games” sounds so icky to me. Good games move games. I think a more immersive metaprogression would be fine. I always liked the idea in Metroid Prime 3 where the game you played showed up as stickers on Samus’s ship. 

I would rather have a dedicated app that shows an environment and that environment changes based on the games you play. Played Mario Wonder? You can now go interact with a wonder flower in a virtual world. Played Xenoblade X? Here’s a Skell to walk around in. 

That's a great idea; Nintendo won't do it though cause of the disaster the kii verse turned into, it's something I am still hoping the trophy system evolves into, I've been hoping PS would have revived a version of PS Home and done the same. Astrobot done it with the collectibles so I have to assume it's on their mind. Even if it's just a virtual trophy cabinet you can customise and show off assets earned from completing hard tasks in games. You can go after what you want and display what you want, of course with a write up to explain what's special about the asset or trophy and then just loads of furniture if it's a real space that you have to unlock in games. 

However; this is asking a lot of devs but not everyone should be forced to opt in. They don't really need to do a PS home world either, just have the apartment, house if you're an extra member or a mansion if you're an premium member and you just TP from yours into someone else's, they don't have to be there but it'd be cool if a group chat could end up in one and interact with stuff and if those assets done particular stuff like music, lighting or something interactive like a pinball machine or the like. 

Nintendo won't do this after the Mii verse I know that but Sony might. They just need to think small and n9t try and create some revolutionary life sim and hope for content. Just small asset content from games would be fine, skins for players and so on. It's a licensing and legal nightmare but it should be possible. 



I wouldn't mind Nintendo implementing achievements. But I wouldn't care about it either. So I don't think Nintendo "needs" it.



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VersusEvil said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

Nintendo are NOT the market leaders. When GTA6 launches, you'll see who the real market leader really is.

Just curious what makes you think the system with the most sales/highest market share currently on the market isn’t the market leader? 

It HAD the most sales, but it doesn't anymore. It's not just about unit sales, it's about active users. The 3DS sold 80 million but all those 80 million are irrelevant now because there's only a tiny fraction of that, that are active users. Whereas, PS4 is only 2.5 years older than 3DS but still has 10's of millions of active users. Also, can you really call yourself a market leader without COD and GTA? By far the biggest games in the industry. 

Leynos said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

Nintendo are NOT the market leaders. When GTA6 launches, you'll see who the real market leader really is.

Switch sales say otherwise, and the multiple games selling over 10-20 million say otherwise. The Switch has had the most 10+ million sellers of any console ever. MS and Sony putting games on Switch but Nintendo giving them nothing says a lot.

Yeah, it says they don't see Nintendo as a threat. MS allowed Moon studios to put Ori on the Switch and not the PlayStation because they didn't see Switch as competition but they do see PlayStation as competition. 



Hardstuck-Platinum said:
VersusEvil said:

Just curious what makes you think the system with the most sales/highest market share currently on the market isn’t the market leader? 

It HAD the most sales, but it doesn't anymore. It's not just about unit sales, it's about active users. The 3DS sold 80 million but all those 80 million are irrelevant now because there's only a tiny fraction of that, that are active users. Whereas, PS4 is only 2.5 years older than 3DS but still has 10's of millions of active users. Also, can you really call yourself a market leader without COD and GTA? By far the biggest games in the industry. 

Leynos said:

Switch sales say otherwise, and the multiple games selling over 10-20 million say otherwise. The Switch has had the most 10+ million sellers of any console ever. MS and Sony putting games on Switch but Nintendo giving them nothing says a lot.

Yeah, it says they don't see Nintendo as a threat. MS allowed Moon studios to put Ori on the Switch and not the PlayStation because they didn't see Switch as competition but they do see PlayStation as competition. 

Oh I'm sorry I didn't know GTAVI is a Sony game. FUck what a stupid ass take your post is.



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Hardstuck-Platinum said:
VersusEvil said:

Just curious what makes you think the system with the most sales/highest market share currently on the market isn’t the market leader? 

It HAD the most sales, but it doesn't anymore. It's not just about unit sales, it's about active users. The 3DS sold 80 million but all those 80 million are irrelevant now because there's only a tiny fraction of that, that are active users. Whereas, PS4 is only 2.5 years older than 3DS but still has 10's of millions of active users. Also, can you really call yourself a market leader without COD and GTA? By far the biggest games in the industry. 

You mean it HAS the most sales. Nothing else currently in the market has outsold it. Also the 3DS is irrelevant coz Switch outsold it. The PS4 is also irrelevant coz the Switch outsold it. I mean, considering it’s the market leader and has outsold everything currently on the market without COD & GTA then yes, it’s the true market leader. It doesn’t need the best selling games to be the best selling system. That’s market leadership right there.



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VersusEvil said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

It HAD the most sales, but it doesn't anymore. It's not just about unit sales, it's about active users. The 3DS sold 80 million but all those 80 million are irrelevant now because there's only a tiny fraction of that, that are active users. Whereas, PS4 is only 2.5 years older than 3DS but still has 10's of millions of active users. Also, can you really call yourself a market leader without COD and GTA? By far the biggest games in the industry. 

You mean it HAS the most sales. Nothing else currently in the market has outsold it. Also the 3DS is irrelevant coz Switch outsold it. The PS4 is also irrelevant coz the Switch outsold it. I mean, considering it’s the market leader and has outsold everything currently on the market without COD & GTA then yes, it’s the true market leader. It doesn’t need the best selling games to be the best selling system. That’s market leadership right there.

Going by your logic I could say Switch is irrelevant because PS2 outsold it. It's just ridiculous to judge success on sales numbers alone instead of active users. 



Hardstuck-Platinum said:
VersusEvil said:

You mean it HAS the most sales. Nothing else currently in the market has outsold it. Also the 3DS is irrelevant coz Switch outsold it. The PS4 is also irrelevant coz the Switch outsold it. I mean, considering it’s the market leader and has outsold everything currently on the market without COD & GTA then yes, it’s the true market leader. It doesn’t need the best selling games to be the best selling system. That’s market leadership right there.

Going by your logic I could say Switch is irrelevant because PS2 outsold it. It's just ridiculous to judge success on sales numbers alone instead of active users. 

Switch has........over 150 million active users since the Switch 2 still hasn't released. The Switch is the ONLY console Nintendo has on the market. It can't be irrelevant in any sort of way you come up with.



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PlayStation Trophies are the best, but there's too much shovelware on the store.
Xbox has better curation, and their achievements are pretty cool and the OG.
Steam Achievements are better than nothing, but don't even contribute to your level or any rewards as far as I'm aware.
If Nintendo creates an achievement system, they need to either have a lot of games without achievements if Switch 2 will still be full of shovelware, or just crack down on shovel ware more.
I love achievement systems on PlayStation and Xbox. However, they're not even in the top few things Nintendo needs. Yes, even app stores and such have achievements. But I'm more focused on Nintendo getting rid of friend codes, having dedicated servers and the like.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)

PS5: 115 million (was 105 million) Xbox Series S/X: 40 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million. then 48 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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