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How far will the Switch 2 go?

+170M units 8 12.12%
 
160-170M units 2 3.03%
 
150-160M units 2 3.03%
 
140-150M units 4 6.06%
 
130-140M units 7 10.61%
 
120-130M units 23 34.85%
 
>120M units 20 30.30%
 
Total:66

Probably do not know enough about the system and the main selling point in order to make a fair guess. As far as I see it the Switch 2 will not exceed or even match the first switch sales. The switch had such a sick first year releasing what many consider the best game in three of their five best selling series Mario Odyssey, Zelda Breath of the Wild and Mario kart 8 Deluxe. Granted 2 of them could also be played on the WiiU, but no one had one of those.

The concept of the first Switch was to many new, that in combination with the outstanding first year got Nintendo of to a good start that I cannot see is possible to replicate on the new system. And the gaming space is also changing, particularly in the handheld market where a lot of gamers are content with playing on their smart phones.

I do think the Switch 2 will be a success, I do not think it will break 100 million unit sold.

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Not as much as the original. The Switch got to over 150M in large part for reasons that were once extremely controversial to bring up in certain places *ahem* but are largely accepted today (and we won't be discussing them today *taps sign*). Those conditions likely and hopefully won't exist in the next few years. So, assuming a reasonable price (say, $400), then I think the Switch 2 will probably sell somewhere in the 120-140M range.

Then again we could have unforeseen events happen in the console market that could push more people towards Switch 2, like MS and/or Sony just dropping support for physical media altogether, in which case the Switch 2 has a very real chance of actually becoming the new #1 console ever as people who still like owning their games migrate over to a system that, while maybe not as sophisticated as the PS6 & Xbox 5 will likely be, will be plenty advanced and still support physical games. I know if Sony & MS both abandon physical next generation, their current systems will be the last I'll ever own. Nintendo at least seems like they'll be supporting physical games for a very long time, so they'll continue getting my support.

This is all assuming nothing bad happens in the world because of bad policies from bad politicians, such as America's newly-returned Dumbass-in-Chief getting his trade war or him getting the quack anti-vaxxer he wants for Health Secretary confirmed, in which case all bets are off, because there's no telling what kind of effects that could all have.



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LegitHyperbole said:

Is this thread a joke thread.

If you think Switch 2 is a joke that’s ok. If you think Switch 2 won’t sell as good as Switch that’s ok. If you think Switch 2 will sell better than Switch that ok. 
You have your reasons. And you have your threads, if you don’t like what I’ve done or how I act on my own thread or even the idea of the thread itself you can keep those words to yourself.

If you don’t have anything to add to this thread or even act constructive towards another, you are welcome to watch, and listen.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

"The way to accomplish great things, is to be indefatigable and never rest till the thing is accomplished." - Joseph Smith Jr.

Shadow1980 said:

Not as much as the original. The Switch got to over 150M in large part for reasons that were once extremely controversial to bring up in certain places *ahem* but are largely accepted today (and we won't be discussing them today *taps sign*). Those conditions likely and hopefully won't exist in the next few years. So, assuming a reasonable price (say, $400), then I think the Switch 2 will probably sell somewhere in the 120-140M range.

Then again we could have unforeseen events happen in the console market that could push more people towards Switch 2, like MS and/or Sony just dropping support for physical media altogether, in which case the Switch 2 has a very real chance of actually becoming the new #1 console ever as people who still like owning their games migrate over to a system that, while maybe not as sophisticated as the PS6 & Xbox 5 will likely be, will be plenty advanced and still support physical games. I know if Sony & MS both abandon physical next generation, their current systems will be the last I'll ever own. Nintendo at least seems like they'll be supporting physical games for a very long time, so they'll continue getting my support.

This is all assuming nothing bad happens in the world because of bad policies from bad politicians, such as America's newly-returned Dumbass-in-Chief getting his trade war or him getting the quack anti-vaxxer he wants for Health Secretary confirmed, in which case all bets are off, because there's no telling what kind of effects that could all have.

I do think that without the pandemic and free time, it could provide itself to be massive wall to prevent Switch 2 reaching the sales numbers of the Switch.

I agree that without Xbox, the market becomes way easier for Nintendo (and Sony) to dominate. And I did see another post that spoke of the 1990’s era of gaming. Sounds like gaming is at a crossroads and it’ll be a very interesting next decade.

I am happy that Nintendo will still produce physical games as well, I enjoy looking at my collection and the process to insert and remove cartridges brings some simple nostalgia.

And I do agree that things could get interesting on the political end given the tariffs and the make-it-at-home ideology he proposes. 

I do still think that Nintendo has at least started off on the right foot marketing wise, with the name. It’s simple and not confusing unlike WiiU. They also understand that their consumers desire a new iteration of the beloved franchises and seem to start of fantastic with a new Mario Kart (though I do wish this game was the Christmas release game with a 3D Mario as the console release game). And Nintendo understands that they need to boost the power, efficiency and abilities of their consoles in order to keep up with technology and ensure 3rd parties join their ranks. 24-player Mario Kart is not an easy task (at least for Nintendo) but somehow we will have it.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

"The way to accomplish great things, is to be indefatigable and never rest till the thing is accomplished." - Joseph Smith Jr.

Shtinamin_ said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Is this thread a joke thread.

If you think Switch 2 is a joke that’s ok. If you think Switch 2 won’t sell as good as Switch that’s ok. If you think Switch 2 will sell better than Switch that ok. 
You have your reasons. And you have your threads, if you don’t like what I’ve done or how I act on my own thread or even the idea of the thread itself you can keep those words to yourself.

If you don’t have anything to add to this thread or even act constructive towards another, you are welcome to watch, and listen.

That was the most elegant way I've ever been called an asshat in my life. Nice one. 



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There is a big part of me that would much rather see Switch 2 just be a minor success rather than a huge one again for Nintendo. I really hate the idea of them riding out another near decade life cycle with S2, which will be starting out well behind the other current gen consoles in hardware just like S1. Then it’s like a miserable situation again with the performance stuff during the last half of its life. And if it’s crazy successful, then we’re probably stuck with Switch 3 and we might actually lose innovative zany Nintendo.

No, I’d love for this thing to sell like 60 lt more like a 3DS and Nintendo be ready to move on to something totally new by the early 30s.



HyrulianScrolls said:

There is a big part of me that would much rather see Switch 2 just be a minor success rather than a huge one again for Nintendo. I really hate the idea of them riding out another near decade life cycle with S2, which will be starting out well behind the other current gen consoles in hardware just like S1. Then it’s like a miserable situation again with the performance stuff during the last half of its life. And if it’s crazy successful, then we’re probably stuck with Switch 3 and we might actually lose innovative zany Nintendo.

No, I’d love for this thing to sell like 60 lt more like a 3DS and Nintendo be ready to move on to something totally new by the early 30s.

Or they could just actually make a pro this time. 

I don't want to lose the hybrid form factor and have to buy 2 Nintendo systems a generation again. 



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)

PS5: 115 million (was 105 million) Xbox Series S/X: 40 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million. then 48 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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Wman1996 said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

There is a big part of me that would much rather see Switch 2 just be a minor success rather than a huge one again for Nintendo. I really hate the idea of them riding out another near decade life cycle with S2, which will be starting out well behind the other current gen consoles in hardware just like S1. Then it’s like a miserable situation again with the performance stuff during the last half of its life. And if it’s crazy successful, then we’re probably stuck with Switch 3 and we might actually lose innovative zany Nintendo.

No, I’d love for this thing to sell like 60 lt more like a 3DS and Nintendo be ready to move on to something totally new by the early 30s.

Or they could just actually make a pro this time. 

I don't want to lose the hybrid form factor and have to buy 2 Nintendo systems a generation again. 

Well the rumors and leak do place the pricing of the Switch 2 at $449 and $499. Could be a base Switch 2 and a Pro. Or a base and a bundle. 
I think Nintendo choosing an LCD screen over the OLED screen is a step in the wrong direction.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

"The way to accomplish great things, is to be indefatigable and never rest till the thing is accomplished." - Joseph Smith Jr.

HyrulianScrolls said:

There is a big part of me that would much rather see Switch 2 just be a minor success rather than a huge one again for Nintendo. I really hate the idea of them riding out another near decade life cycle with S2, which will be starting out well behind the other current gen consoles in hardware just like S1. Then it’s like a miserable situation again with the performance stuff during the last half of its life. And if it’s crazy successful, then we’re probably stuck with Switch 3 and we might actually lose innovative zany Nintendo.

No, I’d love for this thing to sell like 60 lt more like a 3DS and Nintendo be ready to move on to something totally new by the early 30s.

I guess the main reason why Nintendo is keeping the hybrid nature as a core pillar of their consoles now is cause it simplifies everything they do as a company and provides the biggest audience to make more money.

Personally I don’t really know what Nintendo would innovate next as I feel like they found a system that works. On the go, at home, (and rumors have Switch 2 be PC software compatible).

I do agree that there were some disappointing performance issues with Switch, but it seems like Switch 2 is made to actually last 8+ years of production.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

"The way to accomplish great things, is to be indefatigable and never rest till the thing is accomplished." - Joseph Smith Jr.

Shtinamin_ said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

There is a big part of me that would much rather see Switch 2 just be a minor success rather than a huge one again for Nintendo. I really hate the idea of them riding out another near decade life cycle with S2, which will be starting out well behind the other current gen consoles in hardware just like S1. Then it’s like a miserable situation again with the performance stuff during the last half of its life. And if it’s crazy successful, then we’re probably stuck with Switch 3 and we might actually lose innovative zany Nintendo.

No, I’d love for this thing to sell like 60 lt more like a 3DS and Nintendo be ready to move on to something totally new by the early 30s.

I guess the main reason why Nintendo is keeping the hybrid nature as a core pillar of their consoles now is cause it simplifies everything they do as a company and provides the biggest audience to make more money.

Personally I don’t really know what Nintendo would innovate next as I feel like they found a system that works. On the go, at home, (and rumors have Switch 2 be PC software compatible).

I do agree that there were some disappointing performance issues with Switch, but it seems like Switch 2 is made to actually last 8+ years of production.

In what way is it made for 8+ years? We know it’s well behind pa5 and xsx in power, which themselves are nearly 5 years old already. It will be the exact same situation as Switch if they ride it out that long. Miserably underpowered for the last 4-5 years. 

And I never said anything about them abandoning hybrid. Absolutely not, going back would never work now. But that doesn’t mean they have to stick to the Switch brand and fail to innovate just bc it’s a hybrid console.