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Forums - Sales Discussion - Famitsu Sales: Week 41, 2024 (Oct 07 - Oct 13)

UnderwaterFunktown on 18 October 2024
firebush03 said:
UnderwaterFunktown said:

I really can't see a world where the PS5 price increase in Japan will pay off. Sales are less than half what they were before and the software has always been where the profit is at anyways. I'm sure they're hoping it will stabilize back to what it was before when there's a little more distance to the price hike but I'm having a hard time seeing it.

i feel like the industry is starting to shift in such a way so as to prioritize selling hardware at a profitable margin over software. With ballooning development costs, it's no longer a safe gamble to pump out a game and expect profits: R&C:RA is an example of a game which never broke even despite selling nearly five million (appearently this game made good profits), FFVIIReBirth sold throguh 3mil in its first week yet still disappointed SquEnix, Concord generated virtually no revenue and stabbed an aggressive (speculated) $300mil into Sony's wallet.

The way Sony is likely looking at these figures is in the long-term. Eventually, consumers will "get over it" and become desensitized to the aggressive price tag. Sure, it's not looking good for the moment, but by the time PS6 releases at a price tag of $700(DE)/$800(StndrdE), consumers will have already gotten used to it.

Don't forget they basicly make free money of games sold on the platform made by other developers. They might be worried about their own games not being profitable enough (which I think is silly because it's that worry causing them to downprioritize traditional games in favor of mega failures like Concord), but being a platform holder should always be very profitable to them overall.



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konnichiwa on 18 October 2024
Kyuu said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

300k sounds a bit too much even with PC included. Elden Ring did 50% of its sales digital+PC+Xbox, and by that time PS5 was strongly supply constrained 

I think 210-230k is more realistic? 

PC is rapidly growing in Japan. If memory serves me right, overall spending on 3rd party PC software/content in Japan last year was much higher than Switch and Playstation.

With that said, we don't have enough data on digital sales and how much of the money spent is going to services and microtransactions. So your estimate may be more accurate.

Would be interesting to see because the latest I saw was  'PC software revenue in Japan is 50% of the console software revenue in Japan'   It was used as proof that Switch/mobile and now PC must be have higher software revenue in Japan than PS.






Bofferbrauer2 on 18 October 2024
Machina said:

That price hike really did a number on PS5. Top 3 games, all new releases, and yet hardware doesn't budge an inch.

Oh, but it did move - down!

firebush03 said:

PS5 is sitting resiliently at 10-15k/week. Doesn’t matter if Metaphor, Dragon Ball, nor Silent Hill release with strong figures. Price hike is rlly hurting Sony’s momentum in Japan. Happy to see Metaphor doing so good, nonetheless. :) Zelda’s holding strong. Astro is still nowhere in sight…

It got 3 rather big releases and yet sales went down WoW to just 11k. I'm not sure it can hold the 10k the next couple weeks with this.



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Bofferbrauer2 on 18 October 2024
curl-6 said:

Top 30: https://nintendoeverything.com/famitsu-software-sales-10-7-24-10-13-24-top-30/

1. [PS5] Metaphor: ReFantazio – 82,827 / NEW
2. [PS5] Dragon Ball Sparking Zero – 63,922 / NEW
3. [PS5] Silent Hill 2 – 29,374 / NEW
4. [PS4] Metaphor: ReFantazio – 25,385 / NEW
5. [NSW] Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom – 19,710 / 268,039
6. [NSW] Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord – 8,061 / NEW
7. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 6,372 / 6,025,572
8. [NSW] Minecraft – 4,695 / 3,652,504
9. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons – 4,310 / 7,930,668
10. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports – 4,188 / 1,442,980
11. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – 3,347 / 5,598,422
12. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure – 3,296 / 3,643,580
13. [NSW] Powerful Pro Baseball 2024-2025 – 2,910 / 303,019
14. [NSW] EA Sports FC 25 – 2,784 / 20,718
15. [NSW] Pokémon Scarlet / Violet – 2,665 / 5,423,808
16. [NSW] Sword Art Online: Fractured Daydream – 2,172 / 16,010
17. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu World: Chikyuu wa Kibou de Mawatteru – 2,002 / 1,143,230
18. [PS5] Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord – 1,918 / NEW
19. [NSW] Sunsoft is Back: Retro Game Selection – 1,915 / NEW
20. [NSW] Luigi’s Mansion 3 – 1,787 / 1,037,703
21. [NSW] Super Mario Bros. Wonder – 1,759 / 1,935,378
22. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban – 1,713 / 3,032,157
23. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics – 1,670 / 1,335,654
24. [NSW] Splatoon 3 – 1,662 / 4,372,700
25. [NSW] Super Mario Party – 1,623 / 2,341,847
26. [PS5] Sword Art Online: Fractured Daydream – 1,536 / 11,181
27. [NSW] Zelda: Breath of the Wild – 1,523 / 2,334,111
28. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey – 1,478 / 2,513,509
29. [NSW] It Takes Two – 1,319 / 88,891
30. [PS5] EA Sports FC 25 – 1,304 / 17,714

NS - 23

PS5 - 6

PS4 - 1

Damn Wizardry did rather poorly. Really sad to see for the game that massively influenced JRPGs. Wizardry was absolutely huge in the 80's in Japan, and now it can't even break the 10k sales on any platform.



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curl-6 on 18 October 2024

So Astro is still gone from the top 30 despite being in stock last week.
Apparently it's absence wasn't an availability issue, but rather just interest drying up.



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boypita on 18 October 2024

But this is for the physical edition, it was already out digitally



BraLoD on 18 October 2024

Astro Bot is already selling 1K or less... truly shameful.



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Mar1217 on 18 October 2024
Bofferbrauer2 said:
curl-6 said:

Top 30: https://nintendoeverything.com/famitsu-software-sales-10-7-24-10-13-24-top-30/

1. [PS5] Metaphor: ReFantazio – 82,827 / NEW
2. [PS5] Dragon Ball Sparking Zero – 63,922 / NEW
3. [PS5] Silent Hill 2 – 29,374 / NEW
4. [PS4] Metaphor: ReFantazio – 25,385 / NEW
5. [NSW] Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom – 19,710 / 268,039
6. [NSW] Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord – 8,061 / NEW
7. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 6,372 / 6,025,572
8. [NSW] Minecraft – 4,695 / 3,652,504
9. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons – 4,310 / 7,930,668
10. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports – 4,188 / 1,442,980
11. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – 3,347 / 5,598,422
12. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure – 3,296 / 3,643,580
13. [NSW] Powerful Pro Baseball 2024-2025 – 2,910 / 303,019
14. [NSW] EA Sports FC 25 – 2,784 / 20,718
15. [NSW] Pokémon Scarlet / Violet – 2,665 / 5,423,808
16. [NSW] Sword Art Online: Fractured Daydream – 2,172 / 16,010
17. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu World: Chikyuu wa Kibou de Mawatteru – 2,002 / 1,143,230
18. [PS5] Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord – 1,918 / NEW
19. [NSW] Sunsoft is Back: Retro Game Selection – 1,915 / NEW
20. [NSW] Luigi’s Mansion 3 – 1,787 / 1,037,703
21. [NSW] Super Mario Bros. Wonder – 1,759 / 1,935,378
22. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban – 1,713 / 3,032,157
23. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics – 1,670 / 1,335,654
24. [NSW] Splatoon 3 – 1,662 / 4,372,700
25. [NSW] Super Mario Party – 1,623 / 2,341,847
26. [PS5] Sword Art Online: Fractured Daydream – 1,536 / 11,181
27. [NSW] Zelda: Breath of the Wild – 1,523 / 2,334,111
28. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey – 1,478 / 2,513,509
29. [NSW] It Takes Two – 1,319 / 88,891
30. [PS5] EA Sports FC 25 – 1,304 / 17,714

NS - 23

PS5 - 6

PS4 - 1

Damn Wizardry did rather poorly. Really sad to see for the game that massively influenced JRPGs. Wizardry was absolutely huge in the 80's in Japan, and now it can't even break the 10k sales on any platform.

I mean it's just a limited physical release, the actual game released digitally first a while back so I don't know about its actual initial sales there but Wizardry was likely not going to maintain its appeal the moment actual home franchises like DQ and FF pointed themselves in the market by the end of the 80's.



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Otter on 19 October 2024
curl-6 said:

So Astro is still gone from the top 30 despite being in stock last week.
Apparently it's absence wasn't an availability issue, but rather just interest drying up.

Yeah, still very strange Japanese trajectory which I don't think we've seen for any game before.

In Europe it's still holding up. 2nd best selling PS5 game in France, No. 5 Switzerland (all platforms) and No. 12 in the UK (all platform) behind 5 new releases. I'm inclined to wait for Playstation JPs year end chart to see if it's disproportionately digital. At it's current retail sales (<40k) it shouldn't even make the year end chart with a traditional 1:2 ratio. So if it charts, we know it has had abnormally high digital sales.

For example Street fighter only sold 66k on PS5 in 2023 compared to spiderman 2's 166k... But on the year end PSN chart Street Fighter was 4 places higher in downloads than spiderman. We'll have too see...Could just be that Japan aren't here for Astro, which would be there loss lol

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Otter on 19 October 2024

In any case we're seeing a lot of games global success not massively reflected here. I mean you wouldn't of expected DBZ sold 3m in 24hours based off these numbers. Or silent hill breaking 1m in less than a week... Funnily a lot of Japanese games are doing disproportionately better outside of Japan compared to the historical balance.