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Forums - Gaming - Discussion Thread – The 13th Annual Greatest Games Event

Okay, so I'm going to comment on my top 10 favorite games here this year. I'll do a separate post for each one and link them all together as I go along. Let's get started.

Other entries in this series:

9. Perfect Tides
8. Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
7. Chop Suey
6. Knights and Bikes
5. Super Metroid
4. Gone Home
3. Butterfly Soup
2. The Last of Us Part I
1. The Last of Us Part II

10. GIANA SISTERS: TWISTED DREAMS

There's no objective way to justify including this game in any top 10 list. Although quite well-made overall, it has certain clear shortcomings. Even in the superior Switch version of the game (the one I most recommend), there is, from time to time, a bit of choppy animation, and the enemy variety leaves much to be desired. The presentation is basic and the story is as simple as they come in games: Giana enters the Dream World to rescue her sister after she's taken there and promptly gobbled up by a dragon. How the hell does such a title fare this well in my book? More than anything else, it's the game's subtle sub-messaging that gets to me more than any present in most titles.

Twisted Dreams is a formal sequel to the 1987 Commodore 64 game The Great Giana Sisters, which was a platforming title intended to be an answer to still-new-and-fresh Super Mario Bros. The NES never really caught on in Europe like the Commodore 64, so for Europeans, this title was, contemporaneously at least, actually the defining platformer of the era. In this 2012 sequel, Giana is a teenager; a stage of life that's all about transformation, and to which end has learned to manipulate her dreams. She uses this newly-developed ability to jump between dreams and transform herself into Cute and Punk personas in order to deal with her inner conflict and fear while she searches for her sister.

In terms of game play, shifting between personas completely changes the appearance of the level you're playing: Cute Giana's version is always set at night, while Punk Giana's is set in the daytime. You can shift personas on the fly with the press of a button and doing so is necessary to change the levels in ways that allow you to progress. You advance from level to level by collecting enough gems to move on, which obviously motivates the player to explore rather than just focus on progressing to the end of the stage. Shifting personas also seamlessly changes the background music between a synth version of the stage's track (for Cute Giana) created by the first game's  composer, Chris Huelsbeck, and a heavy metal version of the same track (for Punk Giana) created by the Swedish band Machinae Supremacy and Fabian Del Priore, the latter of whom had worked on the Nintendo DS remake of the original game shortly before. It's a really clever play hook that firmly distinguishes Twisted Dreams from anything Mario, giving the franchise at long last exactly what Giana spends the game working out: a clear identity of its own.

Aesthetically, this game exists at the intersection of retro gamer geekdom and some cross between punk and metal attitude, replete with castles, demons, dragons, hair dye, spikes, flying pirate ships, angry birds, ghosts that look more like costumes than any persuasive conception of the real deal, and nods to classic chiptunes and Halloween, which is precisely the headspace that I live in. It's nothing less than a perfect match for my own personality. But deep down, this game is subtly, very subtly, about finding yourself, which is just something I never ever have truly felt like I've managed to do in life. It's perfect for teenagers and those of us living with BPD or other mental health struggles that just make it perpetually so difficult to place one's self in the world. Giana's volatile identity is closely bound up with her sister, Maria, and I can relate only too closely to finding my sense of self continuously in ties to others rather than autonomously. The way the game's visual and musical choices are deployed to convey those themes is nothing less than sublime magic to my soul. I'm known to shed tears sometimes during game play. I don't have a sister IRL, but Twisted Dreams has a way of very quietly making me feel like I need one. It won't reach everyone that way, I'm sure, but Twisted Dreams just feels so tailor made for someone like me.

Last edited by Jaicee - on 14 January 2023

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coolbeans said:
Darashiva said:

Next set of hints then:

#45

-Gather the party one more time, in a different dimension called Phantasma

#44

-A thousand years of life can be a heavy burden, even for one without memories

#43

-If she dies, you die

#42

-Travel to another world, to find the soulmate of your mother

#41

-The other half of the first game's villain leads XIII

Not sure if correctly answered yet, but #43 has to be Enslaved: Odyssey to the West.

That's correct. 



Runa216 said:

50 - Probably the most out-of-left-field one on my list and the only game I'd argue is 'bad'. Dinosaurs and vore. Also it has an arcade version that's trash. 
- It hasn't moved since last year. 2-player coop is fun. You get to smooch cave-babes.
49 - Mega Man X4 - PS1 - Salnax
48 - IT's a weird game that straddles the line between being grounded and so serious it makes you cry being kind of absurd and outlandish, especially in its DLC.
- It's a sequel to the prequel.
47 - New Super Mario Bros U/Deluxe - WiiU/Switch - Kakadu
46 - The Messenger - Switch/PS4 - Kenjab

45 - It's not Bioshock Infinite but you turn out to be the villain in the end. IT's also very Metroid. (If y'all don't get it, I'll be disappointed)
44 - the spiritual predecessor to what might be turning into my favourite game franchise/series/sequence ever. It has not held up as well as the others but the Remake is the pinnacle of modern graphics.
43 - People called it a 2D version of a game in my honourable mentions, but in reality it's got so many more RPG and Action-adventure elements.
42 - DLC doesn't just mean DownLoadable Content. DLC is also the title of the DLC, and I got the platinum trophy earlier this year.
41 - It is...inspired by some of my favourite games ever, and it is a 2D sidescrolling sequel to a game that was inspired by the sequels to the games this game is inspired by, which I actually didn't like.


42 - Sleeping Dogs

drbunnig said:
Darashiva said:

Oh, is that Space Station Silicon Valley. Never actually played it myself, but I remember seeing a friend playing it a long time ago.

Spot on. Space Station: Silicon Valley for the N64. Developed by DMA Design, who went on to become Rockstar.

I remember my brother getting this game for Christmas one year. I gave it a shot and have enjoyed it every time I've played it since. A really quirky, unique and fun game.

Never heard of it before, but from the clues it sounds really cool and way ahead of its time.



looks like nobody has a clue without additional clues:

48: No transformations in this entry of the series despite it being a series staple

  1. Hint: Instead, you use the equipment of a former enemy in this game.
  2. Hint: The different levels are built in a Metroidvania style, and without having found all the aforementioned Equipments, you can't fully explore the levels.
  3. Hint: You collect cute little somewhat Heart-shaped octopi and MELT! THEM! DOWN! to increase your max health.

47: This early 3D PC game is mostly an ego-shooter, but also an adventure game and has some strategy mixed into it.

  1. Hint: As long as you have summoned a castle and it is still standing, getting killed will respawn you there, otherwise it's game over.
  2. Hint: You're not firing weapons, but rather casting spells that you learn from scrolls you can find in the levels.
  3. Hint: Some of the spells can later be upgraded, so a fireball can become a rapid fireball that you're shooting like a machinegun - as long as you have enough mana for it that is.

45: A game very similar to the Metroid series.

  1. Hint: The original release was on the C64, though the best version is generally considered to be the Amiga version of this game.

44: Flak Monkey

Scoreboard:

S.Peelman1#49
coolbeans1#46
Mnementh1#50

Top 50 games list:

RankNamePlatformFound by:
50One Must Fall 2097PCMnementh
49Warcraft 2: Tides of DarknessPCS.Peelman
48
47
46MadWorldWiicoolbeans
45



#46
- Challenging, highly regarded old school Zelda-like that was exclusive to one of Nintendo’s rivals.
- Based on previous guesses - it was released during a generation after Golden Axe Warrior, and before Okami.

#45
- If you fancy gifting something to one of the ladies you've met, you’ll have to make sure you get change from the owner when you get the chance. Who you'll be gifting it to will be dependent on if it's a new game or new game+.

My list



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drbunnig said:

#46
- Challenging, highly regarded old school Zelda-like that was exclusive to one of Nintendo’s rivals.
- Based on previous guesses - it was released during a generation after Golden Axe Warrior, and before Okami.

My list

Beyond Oasis?



Second set of hints:

#45

-Gather the party one more time, in a different dimension called Phantasma

-The third game in this series of JRPGs

#44

-A thousand years of life can be a heavy burden, even for one without memories

-The main party of playable characters is a mix of immortals and normal humans

#43

-If she dies, you die (Enslaved: Odyssey to the West)

#42

-Travel to another world, to find the soulmate of your mother

-The soundtrack was composed by a famous anime film composer

#41

-The other half of the first game's villain leads XIII (Kingdom Hearts II)



Darashiva said:

Second set of hints:

#45

-Gather the party one more time, in a different dimension called Phantasma

-The third game in this series of JRPGs

Hmm, as it is you, it must be a Trails game (I think the series name is Legend of Heroes). Let's see Trails of the Sky... err 3.



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Mnementh said:
Darashiva said:

Second set of hints:

#45

-Gather the party one more time, in a different dimension called Phantasma

-The third game in this series of JRPGs

Hmm, as it is you, it must be a Trails game (I think the series name is Legend of Heroes). Let's see Trails of the Sky... err 3.

Correct. Am I getting predictable?



Darashiva said:
Mnementh said:

Hmm, as it is you, it must be a Trails game (I think the series name is Legend of Heroes). Let's see Trails of the Sky... err 3.

Correct. Am I getting predictable?

Well, if you say JRPG, my mind goes to trails, as in past events you were the one holding the banner for the series :)



3DS-FC: 4511-1768-7903 (Mii-Name: Mnementh), Nintendo-Network-ID: Mnementh, Switch: SW-7706-3819-9381 (Mnementh)

my greatest games: 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024

10 years greatest game event!

bets: [peak year] [+], [1], [2], [3], [4]