Barozi said:
curl-6 said:
This is why subscription services like Gamepass aren't good value. You don't own the games and they can and will be taken away. |
How's being able to play a $60 game day one for the price of a $10 subscribtion (the game in question is easily finishable in a month) not good value? If you instead bought it for $60, you would need to complete it 6 times in order to get the same value out of it. How likely is that? I doubt you played through every game in your collection multiple times. In fact most people don't. They complete their games once and maybe come back to play certain favourites once or twice more. |
Many reasons:
1 - It's a monthly subscription, so you have to pay that $10 every month. And Not everyone just jumps from one game to another.
2 - Not everyone NEEDS TO PLAY GAMES AT LAUNCH, so waiting a few months on PS or Xbox will result in that 60 going as low as 20.
3 - People like owning games.
4 - Putting a potential and unknown time limit on availability, for some people, completely devalues it. Either the unknown element could cause anxiety or turn it into work
I don't get why this is such a difficult thing to understand. NOT EVERYONE FINDS VALUE IN A GAME SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE. The sheer dollars and cents of it is absolutely worth it if you compare the monthly fee to what you get, I agree with that 110%. But not everyone games in that specific way. The deal is great if you're the kind of person who likes trying games out and moving on, or experimenting with many things, or don't like owning your games, or see it as a rental service. Not everyone is like that. Plenty of gamers are collectors. Trophy hunters. Or only play a handful of games every year or frequently return to old favourites.
I'm all of the above. I collect physical games, I collect digital copies when on sale, and despite all that I still only play a few games a year. I collect so my family and friends can play when they're here or to have the games as insurance in case I ever want to play them.
Honestly, I don't even like BORROWING games FREE OF CHARGE from people I know will let me borrow it as long as I want, because as soon as there's an unknown but potential time limit on it, it gives me stress and anxiety. and I know I'm not the only one. I know I'm the minority but this weird sort of militaristic push for gamepass especially (I mostly see PS people saying PSnow/Plus is pretty crap even though I disagree) just makes me resent it.
And I pay for gamepass. I have it for guests or if I want to play games on Xbox like Tunic before it came to PS4/5, just don't use it often. I don't hate it, I just don't find any value in it, personally. Because my specific gameplay/collection style doesn't really mesh well with the very specific set of circumstances needed to appreciate Gamepass/Now/Plus. I basically have it in case I wanna play games I already own on another console. I buy games on PS/Switch, and I play gamepass games on Xbox. Even then, kinda not really because why? Why would I outside of the paltry exclusive offerings of Microsoft?
Again, the sheer dollars and cents of it is an amazing value if all context is stripped. I just personally feel that the interactive/active nature of games as a medium invokes so many qualifiers and quantifiers that a subscription service like this is a bit more circumstantial than people seem to think. Again, if you're the kind of person who likes to try a little bit of everything, or the kind of person that jumps from game to game without sinking much time into each one, or you don't return to old games you like, or if you're not a collector, or if you've got a family and having the options for your kids to play with, I get it. THERE IS A MARKET FOR IT, IT'S JUST NOT FOR ME. Yet every time the topic comes up, it's 'gamepass is awesome and you're stupid for not liking it and all your reasons for not finding value in it are invalid' (Gamepass being a blanket term for all subs, at this point; the same rules apply but I only ever hear about Gamepass because it's virtually all that Xbox has and thus its fanbase has to push it super duper hard).
And that last one, the family thing? That's the best option if you ask me. If I lived with roommates or a family or a communal group, I would find ALL the value in gamepass. but I live alone with my dog and snakes. I have a PS5 with 350+ games on it and a Switch with 200+ games on it. I DO NOT NEED GAME PASS (Except to play the small handful of Xbox exclusives I genuinely don't even think are all that great. Granted, playing upcoming games like Starfield and Elder Scrolls VI and Avowed and many more has me excited but right now....all that's there is Grounded and Sea of Thieves).
I know I keep going in circles, but you Gamepass fellators need to stop pushing it like it's some be-all, end-all, perfect holy bestowment from god above and that anyone who doesn't agree is a heathen worthy of scorn. The fervor in which people praise it is really feeling cult-like to anyone who isn't in on it and it's kind of sad. it's a good service with a great dollar to value ratio that plenty of people enjoy. IT's not universal and y'all need to stop acting like it is. Again, the interactive nature of the medium is a context that matters. And again, I DO PAY FOR IT, simply because I do want to support Gamepass (and have the option in case I ever pick up an Xbox controller again) because I do think it's good value. I've had it for 6 months yet all I've played on it is/was Tunic. then I picked it up on PS5 and haven't gone back. Because now I have that comfort of knowing I can play it any time.
Just stop treating Gamepass like a religion/cult, would ya? different people find value in different things. It's not universal. if it was, Xbox would be outselling PS and Switch, and it's not. Not even in the US. Cut it out.