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Leynos said:

Nothing that interests me personally. Just seems more quantity than quality. Not taking away from those who enjoy these. Said it before and believe it. Nintendo still has the better talent and will continue to have higher quality output. Sony I feel has been iffy for some time. A lot of the same kinda stuff to where even with a different name and studio a lot of their games look like the same game. MS at least looks more varied than Sony.

There is definitely quality in there...

Blizzard is probably my favorite developer of all time... Mostly that has been thanks to their historic focus and support of the PC with gems like WarCraft, StarCraft: Brood Wars and Diablo 2 being amazing games in their own right that set genre trends... Ironically, decades after these games released, you can still play them online via Battle.net... I bet you can't say that about allot of exclusive games that released in the last 15 years, let alone 25 years on console.

Bethesda always made great open world games, Morrowind was absolutely the ducks nuts before Oblivion or Skyrim was cool.

Doom and Quake set examples on FPS shooters that the industry followed at several points in history.

Halo defined console shooters.

Gears defined 3rd person shooters.

Forza leads the industry in racing.

That doesn't discount that Nintendo makes some amazing games, Links Awakening and Metroid Dread are my favorite Switch titles... And Mario Kart 8, Breath of the Wild were my favorite Wii U titles.

Every platform has amazing games, it's whether those games are pertinent to your own individualistic tastes, personally I don't let myself be limited by a brand name... That's silly and you miss out on great experiences.



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Leynos said:

Nothing that interests me personally. Just seems more quantity than quality. Not taking away from those who enjoy these. Said it before and believe it. Nintendo still has the better talent and will continue to have higher quality output. Sony I feel has been iffy for some time. A lot of the same kinda stuff to where even with a different name and studio a lot of their games look like the same game. MS at least looks more varied than Sony.

There is definitely quality in there...

Blizzard is probably my favorite developer of all time... Mostly that has been thanks to their historic focus and support of the PC with gems like WarCraft, StarCraft: Brood Wars and Diablo 2 being amazing games in their own right that set genre trends... Ironically, decades after these games released, you can still play them online via Battle.net... I bet you can't say that about allot of exclusive games that released in the last 15 years, let alone 25 years on console.

Bethesda always made great open world games, Morrowind was absolutely the ducks nuts before Oblivion or Skyrim was cool.

Doom and Quake set examples on FPS shooters that the industry followed at several points in history.

Halo defined console shooters.

Gears defined 3rd person shooters.

Forza leads the industry in racing.

That doesn't discount that Nintendo makes some amazing games, Links Awakening and Metroid Dread are my favorite Switch titles... And Mario Kart 8, Breath of the Wild were my favorite Wii U titles.

Every platform has amazing games, it's whether those games are pertinent to your own individualistic tastes, personally I don't let myself be limited by a brand name... That's silly and you miss out on great experiences.

Bethesda makes crap buggy broken games. ESII is the last great RPG they made. The west can't design good melee combat for shit. With very few exceptions, western devs are pretty bad at melee combat and Bethesda's is about as stiff and aged as they get. Fallout is the same game over and over. The best FO games were 1-2.

Never cared for Halo.

I liked Doom 2016 but Eternal was a massive downgrade and letdown. I didn't ask for Doom May Cry. I like Doom. I like DMC, I don't like them merged. I like Wolfenstien more but after the last 2 entires I lost faith in the series.

Gears is old and tired and been bested since. 5 had a pathetic excuse for an open world. It felt like a desperate attempt to revive a stagnant series. VanQuish is a better TPS and the best TPS ever mechanically and I just can never go back to something as slow and plodding as Gears now. Splatoon a series I'm meh on sells better than Gears these days.

Mario kart a single entry outsells the entire Forzra franchise and I'd take Cruis'n Blast/Hotshot Racing/Fast RMX/Horizon Chase Turbo over Forza. Give me 90s arcade racing over another bland sim game,cars are shiny,environments look real...ugh all looks the same now, I fall asleep playing them at least I did on 360 and Driveclub on PS4. Played Forza. Boring to me. Maybe if MS brought back PGR then maybe be interested. I liked the Kudos system. 90s style arcade games often went for more imagination and fun envirments then look how real this cliff looks.

If MS gives me a Killer Instinct 2 from Iron Galaxy and don't do a season model. I'd be interested. If MS would fund a new true Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey Sequels. (BD on DS doesn't count) if MS and SEGA are on such good terms. Fund Virtua Fighter 6. A new Jet Set Radio.

I need Sony to remake Ape Escape on PS5. I joke about Omega Boost but that game still plays well and they could outsource it to the team behind Astebreed. I'd love fr Sony to fun a ZOE3. A new Sly Cooper that's good. Bring back Wild Arms.  Wipeout. Not more half assed large envirment forest simulators. So many of Sony's game borrow ever bad habit of modern game design ESP in bad modern open design. I'm tired of it.  Gravity Rush was cool but no one bought it and it sucks. No one bought Lost in Rain and that sucks. Now the studio is dead. A studio that was creative in ideas.

I couldn't care less about Mario Party/Pokemon/Animal Crossing but funding Bayonetta 3 and Astral Chain then publishing Daemon X Machina is perfection.  BOTW is the best designed open world ever made and makese sense when the kings of large worlds in Monolith designed the topagraphy. Monolith knows how to make well written RPGs with massive worlds top level design and engines very solid and don't break. Tho Monolith still fails in designing worthy side quests.



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1/3 (almost 5000 employees) taken by a studio that hasn't released a new game in 6 years. What the hell are they working on? The second coming of Jesus?



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Leynos said:

Nothing that interests me personally. Just seems more quantity than quality. Not taking away from those who enjoy these. Said it before and believe it. Nintendo still has the better talent and will continue to have higher quality output. Sony I feel has been iffy for some time. A lot of the same kinda stuff to where even with a different name and studio a lot of their games look like the same game. MS at least looks more varied than Sony.

Most of what's announced or rumored, we haven't see any gameplay for or it's a codename for an unannounced title. Can't really say for certain if their quality or not. Now if you said, I can't get excited for a bunch of games we haven't seen much of or anything, then I would agree with you. 

You should give Forza Horizon 5 a go. Certainly not bland and there is a reason it's won multiple GOTY awards which is unprecedented for a racing game.

Btw, Bandi Namco is rumored to be working on Killer Instinct so take that as you will. 

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Leynos said:

Bethesda makes crap buggy broken games. ESII is the last great RPG they made. The west can't design good melee combat for shit. With very few exceptions, western devs are pretty bad at melee combat and Bethesda's is about as stiff and aged as they get. Fallout is the same game over and over. The best FO games were 1-2.

Buggy? Yes. Crap? No.

Morrowind back in 2002 was absolutely amazing, playing that on the old Geforce 4 Ti with pixel shader effects? You were on the cutting edge.

Fallout 3 and New Vegas were solid games in their own right, some good story telling.

Sorry you didn't enjoy them, but -millions- of other gamers did and still do.

Leynos said:

Never cared for Halo.

Personal choice, doesn't stop it from being an amazing franchise loved by 10's of millions of gamers.

Sorry you couldn't get into it, some fantastic story telling to be had.

Leynos said:

I liked Doom 2016 but Eternal was a massive downgrade and letdown. I didn't ask for Doom May Cry. I like Doom. I like DMC, I don't like them merged. I like Wolfenstien more but after the last 2 entires I lost faith in the series.

Doom did start before 2016, same with Wolfenstein, they have history.
Sadly the Switch ports were a massive downgrade, but the best place to play them is definitely PC.

Leynos said:

Gears is old and tired and been bested since. 5 had a pathetic excuse for an open world. It felt like a desperate attempt to revive a stagnant series. VanQuish is a better TPS and the best TPS ever mechanically and I just can never go back to something as slow and plodding as Gears now. Splatoon a series I'm meh on sells better than Gears these days.

Still a fun romp.
Gears 5 technicals made it a showstopper, VanQuish is also a solid game, but it's old and outdated now, having released in 2010.
The remaster cleans it up, but still can't hold a candle to newer games.

Splatoon is great fun.

I think you are in the mindset of not enjoying the actual game, but comparing a game to another game, which destroys any enjoyment you might get by telling yourself "I could be playing this instead".

Leynos said:

Mario kart a single entry outsells the entire Forzra franchise and I'd take Cruis'n Blast/Hotshot Racing/Fast RMX/Horizon Chase Turbo over Forza. Give me 90s arcade racing over another bland sim game,cars are shiny,environments look real...ugh all looks the same now, I fall asleep playing them at least I did on 360 and Driveclub on PS4. Played Forza. Boring to me. Maybe if MS brought back PGR then maybe be interested. I liked the Kudos system. 90s style arcade games often went for more imagination and fun envirments then look how real this cliff looks.

Mario Kart 8 on Switch though is just a re-release of an old game... It's 10 year Birthday is only a couple years away.
It's also technically not in the same genre as Forza.

If Forza isn't for you, that's fine, but it's hitting some very big industry highs at the moment and shifted millions of copies with endless praise, it's a quality title which is why it's industry renowned at the moment, it looks amazing, it plays great.
Sorry you can't enjoy an amazing game.

I would actually like to see a return of "Blur" I thoroughly enjoyed that game from Activision.

Leynos said:

If MS gives me a Killer Instinct 2 from Iron Galaxy and don't do a season model. I'd be interested. If MS would fund a new true Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey Sequels. (BD on DS doesn't count) if MS and SEGA are on such good terms. Fund Virtua Fighter 6. A new Jet Set Radio.

I agree the Season model for Killer Instinct was convoluted and confusion.
But if you buy the complete game, it's probably one of the best fighters out there, it's very polished and fun.

JRPG's need more support on Xbox, it's one of the big reasons why I own a Switch and Playstation 5.

Jet Set got a "spiritual successor" with sunset overdrive, if you enjoyed Jet Set, give that game a chance.

Don't forget you also have titles like Fable, Ori, Sea of Thieves, State of Decay, Flight Simulator.

Xbox, Playstation and PC aren't lacking games, be a little more open minded and a little less critical and you might start to enjoy the differences they bring to the table... Would be a terrible industry if everything was carbon copies of each other...



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they have acquired a lot of studios bu the main JOB now is to Manage them and produce good IP which MS has seemed to be lacking in the past.

It will take 3-5 years but they could start to challenge Sony's High Quality IP's.


lets see what Sony does to keep its competitiveness



Gamepass in 5 to 10 years is gonna be pretty ridiculous when you look at what they already have, nevermind whatever else they're looking into buying.



                            

Obsidian, InXile and DoubleFine were great companies before they were part of Microsoft. Now that they can keep their funding more stable under Microsoft and keep staff even between projects, they may be doing even better. I very much look forward to all the unannounced projects in their column.

Activision looks just sad though. So many dev studios, and all doing Call of Duty. I hope MS changes that and diversifies their output.



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