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dark_gh0st_b0y on 23 August 2021
Runa216 said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

"emotionally healthy if done right", thank you, anything can be destructive if done the wrong way, just look at science...

only the inside matters, anything else is an illusion, pointless sex leaves no lasting happiness, only some minutes of physical pleasure with lasting negative consequences which take place subconsiously - threatens the meaning of true love, takes away innocence and pure intentions in social relationships - especially kids from a young age, leads to measuring people by bodies and faces instead of the inside, opens the door to destroying families and in some cases it even makes people lose the meaning in general, leading to ever increasing depression rates which we see in the newly pornified West

the newly pornified world wants to convince us that sex is of utter importance, WHY!?

I don't judge anyone, I feel sorry for them, I've been tricked into this meaningless horror in the past

You don't get to make that decision for anyone but yourself. End of discussion. This is exactly why we have so many problems with taboos concerning sex work and sexuality. People like you are why this is even a problem in the first place.

sex work and sexuality are different stories... one is a matter of survival and the other is a matter of preference, nothing to do with wanting to see porn in every corner

people who cannot accept that some people are different with different views is the problem, and that's you not me



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

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dark_gh0st_b0y on 23 August 2021
Runa216 said:
S.Peelman said:

Pompeii, some naughty Roman 2000 years ago had this painting on the wall of their living room.

Right? Like, we were super sexed up for a few millennia, it wasn't until the puritans and christianity took over that sex was seen as taboo for a few hundred years. This is not new and it's not special, this sort of holier than thou attitude is literally oppression. 

yes the world was pornified BC until Jesus taught what true love is and people realized that random sex not only serves no purpose but also poisons true love, so it became a private matter only concerning couples, which is also my view



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

dark_gh0st_b0y on 23 August 2021
Ka-pi96 said:

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

Sex is the biggest nothing of all time.
Andy Warhol

what's the point of sex apart from making kids and coming mentally closer to your partner? absolutely nothing!! pornography leads to pointlessness, losing the meaning of true love, which is the spiritual/mental love

it's not all about "brains and bodies", we are not animals

I respect your views but at the same time I find them truly disgusting, how can you even live like that?

pornography serves nothing to the world, the less the better

There's no real point to literally anything you or anyone else has ever done or will ever do.

I couldn't disagree more, I guess this is where we differ



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

Conina on 23 August 2021
LurkerJ said:

I don’t know about rape and pornography, but it would be interesting to look at the numbers you brought up and dissect them. Maybe rape has gone up because population has increased magnificently? Genuinely curious. Also the definition of what is considered rape has changed, hasn’t it? It wouldn’t surprise me if rape in the past was a much bigger issue. Again, talking out of my ass here, but I am on a hurry and a in-depth look at the numbers would help. 

I honestly don’t know about rape statistics, but the general theme in this thread has been “porn consumption has increase, so mental health issues and rape. A connection must be there!”…. No? 

Well, porn got a lot more accessible since the 1980s (VHS) and further more accessible since the internet got popular (1990s).

"Over the last four decades, rape has been declining. According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, the adjusted annual per-capita victimization rate of rape has declined from about 2.4 per 1000 people (age 12 and above) in 1980 (that is, 2.4 persons from each 1000 people 12 and older were raped in 1980) to about 0.4 per 1000 people in 2003, a decline of about 85%. There are several possible explanations for this, including stricter laws and education on security for women."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_United_States#Shift_in_the_form_of_crime

Is the number of unreported cases multiple times of that?

Sure, but it also was in the 1970s and earlier, in the good ol' porn-free days.

https://www.womanstats.org/maps.html

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Metallox on 23 August 2021
Ka-pi96 said:
Metallox said:

Harshhhhh... You're not wrong, though. But in fairness, Shikamaru doesn't go out without highlighting a few real problems that absolutely need to change in the landscape. For one thing, this shows us that parents need to be more involved in their children's online habits and overall upbringing. More communication is needed. At the same time, children should be insisted again and again that getting obsessed over one thing isn't good. I'm not a social educator or anything of the sort, but I think if you bring strong foundations for your children, the less chances there are for them to go towards undesired paths. Easier said than done, however, but the possibility will always be there. For Shikamaru it wasn't as simple as "being unable to moderate himself", he had rough circumstances. 

Furthermore, when Shikamaru says "porn causes x", that's where he's certainly wrong. As you already said, pornography doesn't cause anything, it's all on people. In that sense, we have to find the ways for people to stop developing unrealistic expectations for body proportions and stop seeing others as mere objects even if they watch porn; or in other words, consume it responsibly.

hmm, bit of a double edged sword that. You could get parents that just wait until their kids are ready/old enough to discover things themselves, or you could get brainwashed kids because their parents only let them see things that agree with what their views.

Yeah, but naturally you have to discover the happy middle. I think parents should just be aware whether or not their children are watching things that are having a negative outcome on their lives, act when you notice things are mildly going wrong, which is different from outright restricting every thing that the parents deem bad. That is very broad, of course, but I'm not here to narrow what is good or bad. I just know that becoming obsessed with pornography and letting it change your perspectives (such as seeing people as objetcs of pleasure) is not good, especially at such a young age. The fact that porn is legally only made available for adults is for reasons like those, but I mean, I do not think it is entriely wrong if a horny teenager watches it. I myself started watching it at 11 or 12, I think? And even though my mother didn't ever check on me for that kind of stuff, I never let it take too much control. If anything, video games were my real Achilles' heel. 

OnlyFans was too expensive, btw. What I mean by that is that some people charged for more videos and photos that weren't included in regular subcriptions, if I'm not mistaken. That is a hell of a business. 



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dark_gh0st_b0y on 23 August 2021
LurkerJ said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

it's just an opinion from personal experience, in the end of the day it all comes down to what kind of person you are deep inside

and there are many people like me - and many will be dragged into the pornohorror for no reason because it is overpromoted as being "good for everyone" but it's not, some people get hurt from the pornified society and there's no way around it

I don't expect anyone to agree especially here, I know the demographics of this place well, I'm just expressing my opinion and experience :)

Well…. you also use the science card. And I bet your demographic has a religious background, which we know very well. It is nice being a high horse isn’t it. 

Why do many here sound like entitled children who want to live in a temptation-free bubble? Do they think they’ll have more time to do other things in their life? I bet not, there is always someone or something to blame.

I'm religious yes... and what's your point? what's the problem in that, isn't that a taboo in the first place? I have lived and witnessed both worlds and I chose the path where I feel genuine love and purpose lies, I didn't find any of that in any science book or any atheist view, or in animalish pornomaniac views

temptation-free is of course unrealistic, the problem is that it has all become about temptation, cold and robotic

focus too much on the branches and you lose the stem



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

sundin13 on 23 August 2021
Metallox said:
Ka-pi96 said:

hmm, bit of a double edged sword that. You could get parents that just wait until their kids are ready/old enough to discover things themselves, or you could get brainwashed kids because their parents only let them see things that agree with what their views.

Yeah, but naturally you have to discover the happy middle. I think parents should just be aware whether or not their children are watching things that are having a negative outcome on their lives, act when you notice things are mildly going wrong, which is different from outright restricting every thing that the parents deem bad. That is very broad, of course, but I'm not here to narrow what is good or bad. I just know that becoming obsessed with pornography and letting it change your perspectives (such as seeing people as objetcs of pleasure) is not good, especially at such a young age. The fact that porn is legally only made available for adults is for reasons like those, but I mean, I do not think it is entriely wrong if a horny teenager watches it. I myself started watching it at 11 or 12, I think? And even though my mother didn't ever check on me for that kind of stuff, I never let it take too much control. If anything, video games were my real Achilles' heel. 

OnlyFans was too expensive, btw. What I mean by that is that some people charged for more videos and photos that weren't included in regular subcriptions, if I'm not mistaken. That is a hell of a business. 

Alternately, teach it in schools. We need better sex education and better education on the internet in our schools. 



theRepublic on 23 August 2021
Jaicee said:

Also, today's younger generations are having actual sex less often, mainly because relationships are being formed less often; those being the main context in which sex takes place.

This has little to do with porn, and everything to do with social media.  The average age of the first sexual experience is going up because teens are now hanging out online more often than in person than previous generations (where it was not even possible not that long ago).  They are also engaging in behaviors like sexting instead of actual sex.



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curl-6 on 23 August 2021

It's a pretty consistent pattern that with something like sex work the more you try to prohibit it the more you drive it underground and make it less safe for both workers and consumers, while doing basically nothing to actually prevent it.

Onlyfans was a lifeline for countless sex workers during the pandemic, it kept food on the table and paid their rent while keeping them safe.

Now that lifeline is being cut from the very people who played a key role in making OnlyFans such a success. Nobody really wins here, the site will plummet in popularity while sex workers will lose a platform that gave them income, autonomy, and safety.



curl-6 on 24 August 2021
Ka-pi96 said:
sundin13 said:

Alternately, teach it in schools. We need better sex education and better education on the internet in our schools. 

That's pretty much my line of thinking. Like, under 18s really shouldn't be looking at porn on the internet, but at the same time they're going to be awfully curious about things, and probably trying things themselves regardless of porn, but if they can't look up things on the internet, where else are they going to learn it? Better education in schools is definitely needed.

Yeah the state of sex ed even in a lot of developed nations is just woeful.

Young people deserve to know not just the mechanics and risks, but how to practise safe sex and how different sexuality in real life is from what they see in porn and the media in general.