Just one disclaimer here, my post had 4 or 5 points and they were in no particular order. I would say the lack of focus on Sales threads is the most important point I raised. If we were to run a survey I'd say its the main reason most older users have joined.

Also i mistakenly have pointed out "Nation" threads, but what im really referring to is an over reliance on any and all "Mega" threads. This was not a target on the Xbox nation thread.

Its quite simple for me....I see an update on the Xbox Nation thread, I'm interested, I go in I am lost. I see an update on the PS Nation thread, I'm interested, I go in I am lost. I see an update on the PC thread, I go in and im lost. I see an update on CGI's mega graphics thread and I'm pretty lost there too. We have a few of them and its really hard to navigate, it definitely limits threads on the forum, because the guys who maintain nation threads are generally the most active on the site. I know a lot of people on the forum will not participate in and become a part of a mega thread. There are parameters within these threads, whether unspoken or spoken that are separate from outside of these threads.

"obviously if your first post in the thread is a negative one, it's going to look a little suspect? Lol."

I think the above line pretty much sums it up. No issue with it, it is just the reality. 

There is a place for these threads, especially for smaller news articles that don't warrant a thread, but given the lack of news threads on the forum I would say its gotten to a point where these threads are imperative. Also in my post im not saying it must be removed or anything like that, just giving my opinion on why the Forum seems boring.

Here I am without pants! Who's boring now?!

I also brought it up earlier than that in my huge post but clearly I'm talking about in reference to this debate.

You read my IM post incorrectly and decided to be a dick about it.

Don't see what is wrong with my comment there either though, it's a statement of fact, users have left before when Nation threads were targeted, it's fairly obvious that if Empire was to be closed, users would likely move to Discord, it's the new popular gaming client which does essentially the same thing as Empire does, it's common sense, I know for a fact that folk have reduced their posting already on VGC due to Discord.

About done with this debate though, we're shitting up the thread.

Actually, I am done, I'm pretty sure you also pissed off Talon once before with this type of attitude, if ya want you can report me and a Moderator can handle it but I'd suggest you take a look at your own attitude first.

Never thought of that Art thread thread as 'mega'. More of a classroom for the less savvy!

- Xbox continues to lose most battles but MS deep pockets mean they're winning the war, in other words, the brand losses and mismanagement mean nothing in the long run, Xbox fans need only to point out to the X number of studios Phil has bought and will buy to justify their allegiance. The Xbox empire thread recent posts are mostly about salivating over which Studio Phil should buy next, which is funny, but Xbox fans seem happy.

Maybe having people who help the site who get so personally impacted by any form of critical post on here to the point of still feeling upset about a post made to someone else over 2 years ago could be part and parcel of the issue?

But alas I fear you have latched to the "Storm has an attitude" even basing your feelings on comments towards someone else literally years ago. Look, Good luck with the Nation and maybe at some stage you can read over the posts and see that I was just directly referencing what you yourself said. If part of that was meant as a joke or a reference to an older part of the site (the IM's) then I completely missed that because of having no involvement in this site for a long time and just missed the joke, so my bad on that. Sometimes it being hard to read a tone in text form is the only thing I would suggest to consider. You mention attitude a lot and I think you have that in your head and then project it onto black and white words.

Your signature is very fitting 

How do you keep your legs in such great shape? :( 

How do you keep your legs in such great shape? :(