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They’re saving Mario Kart 9 for Switch 2.

And personally, I’d like to see them dig deeper into the Mario lure for characters instead doing some Orange Silver version of this character or bringing in more non-Mario characters (at that point it might as well be Nintendo Kart).

For example, why can’t we get Professor E.Gadd from Luigi’s Mansion as a playable racer? Or some of the RPG characters from Paper Mario, Mario and Luigi, or Super Mario RPG? Like Count Bleck, Dreambert, or Geno?

How about Pauline? Or a Pianta from Sunshine? Or a Luma from Galaxy?


Really make it MARIO Kart.



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Also, the leap from NES to SNES was not "small" by any stretch of the imagination, it was huge, nothing on NES looks remotely in the same league as the likes of Donkey Kong Country or Yoshi's Island.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 20 January 2021

RedKingXIII said:

At this point I don't think MK9 will be coming to Switch. That's okay. MK8 DX is still selling very well. What really bothers me is the complete lack of any DLC for the game. I mean, there's so much potential here. They could do two DLC packs again. Add more 8-16 tracks. Add and bring back more characters from past games! I'll pay for it. There's so much that they could be doing with extra content for MK8 and yet they don't. That's the weird thing really.

In any case, this rumor is probably false. Comicbook is not a reliable source for rumors (or news) at all.

Oh no, please not more content into MK8. 48 tracks are more than enough - you already have to wait hours until your favourite track will be chosen in online mode. And the roaster and customizable parts are big enough. MK8 had its DLC on WiiU, which is already part of the Switch version. We need a completely new Mario Kart (maybe day/night system for every track?).



This could very well be one of the games Nintendo uses to push the "Switch Pro." Although, I'm not even sure if that's still a thing lol.



CaptainExplosion said:
anonymunchy said:

Why are so many people put off by the idea of another Nintendo developed kart racer? If they would release another Mario Kart in the same style, then sure, but there is no need to limit your minds like that. The Nintendo Switch has shown us time and time again that Nintendo is stepping up their game with some of their long running IP's. Besides that, Diddy Kong Racing and Mario Kart 64 were able to co exist. DKR even had record breaking initial sales at the time.

It differentiated itself by having different types of vehicles, a hub world, boss races, coin challenges, progressive power ups, secret items, a secret world. It was an adventure. Currently, Mario Kart has none of that. It also baffles me that they never followed up on those ideas. Just imagine what sort of game we could have by now if each generation they would've improved on the DKR mechanics. 

A Nintendo Racers game in this style could be amazing. In DKR there were 5 different coloured balloons that served as power-ups. Red/Offensive, Blue/Speed, Green/Crowd Control, Yellow/Defensive and Rainbow/Magnet(?). If you grabbed another balloon with the same colour, it would become stronger. Red went from 1 missile, to a homing missile, to 10 missiles. Blue's speed boost increased with each extra balloon, with the third one being ridiculous. Now imagine a Nintendo roster, where each character has their own version of each power-up.

Link/Red could cycle through different arrow types, his Blue could start with carrots and end with the best sail from Wind Waker, his Rainbow could involve the hookshot while Samus/Rainbow uses the grappling hook and Luigi/Rainbow the suction from plotergust. Fox/Red can start with a single laser that shoots for x amount of times, to a double laser that shoots longer, to a smart bomb.

They could bring in jet skis for that wave race itch, sand buggies for drifting levels, drag cars for f-zero type tracks, drones for flying levels.

Challenge runs - Drift for x amount of time, have x amount of air time, block x amount of attacks, win the race without using power-ups, etc.

A huge hub world with its own races and secrets, where each franchise could get their own themed area, culminating in a boss race. All connected in a similar fashion as World of Light. A super baddy has merged all the different universes, watching from his X-Station.

This might move away from the Mario Kart 9 branding, but as seen from the DLC in 8, they are not afraid to take Mario Kart to a new universe. They also only started using numbers for 7 and 8, I don't think they will continue with it. Mario Kart has been the same since its initial release on the snes, tuned to perfection, now it's time to evolve. I am confident we'll see another Kart Racer from Nintendo, I don't think it'll be the same formula.

We're not opposed to another Nintendo developed kart racer, we just don't want Mario Kart being turned into Smash Bros. the Racing Edition, and we'd much rather they bring back Diddy Kong Racing and F-Zero.

As much as I love Mario Kart, I think it severely lacks in features. Cups, Time Trials and Battle Mode. That's been it, for the majority of the games. They could add an adventure mode, boss fights, and all these amazing DKR/Crash Team Racing ideas, without having to add characters from different universes and turning it into Smash Bros Racing Edition. There is so much room for Mario Kart to grow on the Switch, just step outside the box for a bit. 



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From Nintendo's POV there's just no reason to make MK9 for Switch when it would serve them much better as a system seller for Switch 2.



RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

From Nintendo's POV there's just no reason to make MK9 for Switch when it would serve them much better as a system seller for Switch 2.

There are plenty of reasons why Mario Kart 9 makes sense on Switch:

1. Switch has not received its own Mario Kart yet and a prolonged lifespan for the system is easier to accomplish when you put system sellers on it in the second half of the lifecycle.

2. A new Mario Kart will drive profits for years, especially with the inevitable DLC.

3. The game can be easily repurposed for the Switch successor as a Deluxe version that includes all previously released DLC and some extra goodies. Most people don't buy DLCs, so Nintendo can put together an attractive package (read: system seller) even if the Switch successor is backwards compatible.

The reasoning that is usually put forward against Mario Kart 9 on Switch is pretty much the same as it is for a new 2D Mario game. "Oh, NSMBU Deluxe is selling so well, there's no need to make a new game for Switch."

It would be foolish of Nintendo to make the second half of Switch's life all about new IPs. They need proven IPs as tentpole games each year too. They are making Breath of the Wild 2, there will definitely be another Pokémon gen, another new 3D Mario game is likely too. I don't see why some IPs should be getting multiple new games on Switch while Mario Kart and SMB don't even get one, especially because Mario Kart and SMB are bigger IPs than the aforementioned.

There's no need to save up Mario Kart 9 for the Switch successor when the new console will receive new games anyway. Mario Kart 9 is bound to be a 30m+ seller on Switch and the hardware interest it creates will benefit all other software too.

If Nintendo decided against Mario Kart 9 on Switch, then we'd have a span of 10+ years without a new installment in Nintendo's biggest IP. It's already bad enough that Nintendo did this very thing to SMB (their biggest IP at the time, no new game for 16 years; Super Mario World in 1990, New Super Mario Bros. in 2006) and is about to do it again (New Super Mario Bros. U in 2012), so adding Mario Kart to this very shameful treatment of popular IPs belongs on the list of the dumbest things Nintendo could do over the course of the next several years.

1 and 2. I'm sure Nintendo would have released 9 on Switch it 8 deluxe had sold normally for a port, but that's not the case. The game still sells like crazy, why waste a game on a system that cuts the legs off of another? Not to mention having MK9 for Switch 2 launch will help that console sell like crazy, so why cut the legs off that console as well before it even stands?

3. Well sure, if they were going to release 9 I hope they follow your idea here and re release it in better form on Switch 2. The problem with this is many won't like the precedent they are following. We already hear an endless line of complaints from people annoyed by them porting Wii U games to Switch, so if they continue that trend of making Switch games port to Switch 2 those same triggered people will continue in their ways. Not really a problem for Nintendo as they will sell more games that way. If, however, 9 is exclusive to Switch and 10 doesn't come out many years into Switch 2's life because of that, then this is not a good idea.

Also, that 10 year gap would be for just this gen. These Wii U re-releases are happening because Wii U bombed and Nintendo is trying to salvage as much profit from good games that didn't sell to their potential in the previous system. Switch is a success, and so are it's games, so we won't have that problem with Switch 2 and should enjoy a healthy amount of original exclusives rather than Deluxe ports. I expect MK9 on their next device, MK10 on the one after that, and so on (unless they have a device bomb and then they may do the deluxe MK treatment again).

Lastly, there are a number of unexplored ips this gen that have done well before, some even recently, that they haven't tapped yet. Kid Icarus, Mother/Earthbound, Advanced Wars, Mario and Luigi, etc. I would rather they focus on making their lineup varied, appealing to a wide range of gamers, than just focus on sequels to already successful Switch games, but that's just my opinion.



Mario Kart 8 DX is such a huge title. People that are worried about its legs being cut by MK9 can rest easy. Most of the switch owners will be purchasing both games, I can assure you.



 

 

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160rmf said:

Mario Kart 8 DX is such a huge title. People that are worried about its legs being cut by MK9 can rest easy. Most of the switch owners will be purchasing both games, I can assure you.

I don't understand this perspective. If you have bought 8D, and 9 comes out on the same system, you are far less likely to buy it than you would be if it came out on a new system. It's not like these are games with new stories people want to explore. Millions of sales for both game will poof, be gone, because you released two games on the same system.

If you don't own MK on Switch yet, and 9 is out, you now won't buy 8D, whereas maybe you would have bought 8D on Switch AND 9 on Switch 2.

Nintendo will do whatever leads to the most sales and least cannibalism of sales overall.

Now, releasing a new Diddy Kong Racing Game, or F-Zero, will lead to no cannibalism of MK, more thirst for MK9 and Switch 2, and success for other ips all the while appealing to fans of those series that felt neglected.



Dulfite said:
160rmf said:

Mario Kart 8 DX is such a huge title. People that are worried about its legs being cut by MK9 can rest easy. Most of the switch owners will be purchasing both games, I can assure you.

I don't understand this perspective. If you have bought 8D, and 9 comes out on the same system, you are far less likely to buy it than you would be if it came out on a new system. It's not like these are games with new stories people want to explore. Millions of sales for both game will poof, be gone, because you released two games on the same system.

If you don't own MK on Switch yet, and 9 is out, you now won't buy 8D, whereas maybe you would have bought 8D on Switch AND 9 on Switch 2.

Nintendo will do whatever leads to the most sales and least cannibalism of sales overall.

Now, releasing a new Diddy Kong Racing Game, or F-Zero, will lead to no cannibalism of MK, more thirst for MK9 and Switch 2, and success for other ips all the while appealing to fans of those series that felt neglected.

It's obvious why you can't see it. You are only putting this from your own perspective or the gamer that frequently visits gaming forums perspective, that represents a really tiny group.

Most of people don't wanna buy a new hardware to get a sequel of the game that they enjoyed playing on the system that they currently own. 

I know what I am saying bc I worked at a game shop during the MK8 release on 2014 and I was frequently asked if there's a wii version for MK8 after I explained that wii u games can't run on a wii system.

It's cool and all having other racing games from forgotten IPs, but Mario Kart is the brand that gets the attention. Having 2 MK on the same system would be mind blowing for many. Too hard to miss.



 

 

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