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SvennoJ said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Now this is when things get interesting

I particularly find just refunds too lenient, they need to be sued for false advertising

Something to really hurt them financially to a point they regret their decision of releasing this game for old gen consoles cause so far I only saw this whole circus as free marketing for them to sell more PC versions of Cyberpunk

Dunno if that last part is a good thing. There are now over 4,000 threads in technical discussions and plenty people complaining they can't get a refund from Steam. Everyone who got it for Christmas should be playing now, biggest gaming hours of the year (I can't stay connected to psn at all this afternoon) and there are just over 200K playing. Still the hottest thing I guess, and still a lot of people to disappoint.

PS4 version is at 53 critic, 3.4 user score
XBox version is at 61 critic, 4.7 user score
PC sits at 86 critic, 7.2 user score

Of course if you could filter the pre-launch reviews out, the picture would be quite different.

However there are still apparently millions that think this is the best thing ever made, which is plenty to keep the deception tactics going. These lawsuits will simply keep CDPR in the news and now they can play victim, egging their de-fanbase on.

That's why I think suing the studio is important

Dumb fanboys will defend it a plenty and keep this shit moves happening over and over 

But few consciouns consumers can demand very high indemnities, enough to make the company regret the expenses with so many lawsuits 

Or at least I hope so...



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What's worse than the lawsuit is the probably millions of gamers that bought their game on an inadequate device who may not do so in the future. They shot themselves in the foot for the future just for the present $



Legally... I'm not sure what the damages would be. If anyone who bought the game under false pretenses, what could consumers sue for? I could potentially see other devs filing a lawsuit arguing that they had diminished coverage in gaming media based on cyberpunk hype, or that customers may have not purchased their game because they were holding out for Cyberpunk.

But as for consumers... I don't see the damage. And I am generally opposed to punitive damages except in very rare cases, as in if they are specifically statutory.



AAA studios need to be punished more for their BS. So sick of this industry coddling and enabling their BS.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

JWeinCom said:

Legally... I'm not sure what the damages would be. If anyone who bought the game under false pretenses, what could consumers sue for? I could potentially see other devs filing a lawsuit arguing that they had diminished coverage in gaming media based on cyberpunk hype, or that customers may have not purchased their game because they were holding out for Cyberpunk.

But as for consumers... I don't see the damage. And I am generally opposed to punitive damages except in very rare cases, as in if they are specifically statutory.

It's neither consumers nor other devs. Although other devs suing because Cyberpunk had too much hype would be pretty ridiculous.

It's investors suing due to the hit to the stock price. Which is also a pretty pathetic reason to sue since they probably released the game in it's current state since investors were complaining about delays in the first place. They made their bed, now they should lie in it.



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I don’t know if being sued is really justified. Plenty of developers release games in crappier states then this all the time and nothing happens. Since this is a big release though, suddenly they deserve to be sued? It’s not going to amount to anything.

The real damage is going to be to their reputation. CPR was one of the most revered studios out there with some amazing technological accomplishments. Witcher 3 was an early gen game and still one of the best looking games available. Sadly, they will lose that respect and will be under more scrutiny in the future. That is their punishment and that is enough.



Ka-pi96 said:
JWeinCom said:

Legally... I'm not sure what the damages would be. If anyone who bought the game under false pretenses, what could consumers sue for? I could potentially see other devs filing a lawsuit arguing that they had diminished coverage in gaming media based on cyberpunk hype, or that customers may have not purchased their game because they were holding out for Cyberpunk.

But as for consumers... I don't see the damage. And I am generally opposed to punitive damages except in very rare cases, as in if they are specifically statutory.

It's neither consumers nor other devs. Although other devs suing because Cyberpunk had too much hype would be pretty ridiculous.

It's investors suing due to the hit to the stock price. Which is also a pretty pathetic reason to sue since they probably released the game in it's current state since investors were complaining about delays in the first place. They made their bed, now they should lie in it.

Ah. Well then I stand corrected. Serves me right for not reading the article.

But, nah, that's actually a really legitimate lawsuit to the point that I'd be shocked it it isn't settled quickly. Withholding relevant information from shareholders is absolutely illegal. If the stockholders were being assholes that doesn't change things.

Has to be pointed out though that the investors are not exactly suing. Rather, CDPR the company itself is suing someone, presumably the board of directors.



Ka-pi96 said:
JWeinCom said:

Legally... I'm not sure what the damages would be. If anyone who bought the game under false pretenses, what could consumers sue for? I could potentially see other devs filing a lawsuit arguing that they had diminished coverage in gaming media based on cyberpunk hype, or that customers may have not purchased their game because they were holding out for Cyberpunk.

But as for consumers... I don't see the damage. And I am generally opposed to punitive damages except in very rare cases, as in if they are specifically statutory.

It's neither consumers nor other devs. Although other devs suing because Cyberpunk had too much hype would be pretty ridiculous.

It's investors suing due to the hit to the stock price. Which is also a pretty pathetic reason to sue since they probably released the game in it's current state since investors were complaining about delays in the first place. They made their bed, now they should lie in it.

Erm, they're suing for being lied to. Investors were told the game was in a playable state back in Januari. The state the game was actually in was also held back from investors. You can lie to your fan base, yet lying to investors can become actionable. The fact that Sony pulled Cyberpunk from PSN is proof the game was not in a playable state.

CDPR shot themselves in the foot by telling people they could get refunds without discussing with Sony first. Sony got flooded with refund requests and doesn't want to make an exception for a functioning game, opening the flood gates for more and more refund requests. Hence Sony delisted the game, declaring it unfit for sale, thus being able to refund the game without having to change their 'no refund' policy. Investors see this as proof the game was not in a playable state, thus they were lied to by CDPR.



One could say they never had a chance to deliver on something that was so hyped and anticipated, but then I look at FFVII Remake and see it's actually possible to dliver and then some.

So yeah, fuck them.



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I'm just glad CDPR let their true colors show, I know not to trust them in the future! I play on a high end PC and Cyberpunk is still one of the biggest disappointments in the last ten years. So many broken promises...