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Forums - Sales Discussion - VGChartz Gap Charts November 2020 Discussion Thread

dmillos on 23 December 2020
HigHurtenflurst said:

Was just looking into the crossover January weeks and found it is not consistant (or maybe the method eludes me):

w/e jan 3rd 2009 = Dec08
w/e jan 4th 2014 = Dec13
w/e jan 3rd 2015 = Jan15*

So a week that ended Jan 4th was part of the previous year, then the next year a week ending Jan 3rd was part of the new year


However after that I found something else, unless I am mistaken there seems to be an error in December 2015 for the VGC graphs.
For Nov 2015 I checked both PS4 & WiiU and it is classed as the 4-weeks ending Nov28th
Jan 2016 is classed as the 4-weeks ending Jan30th

The 5-weeks inbetween those two periods though do not add-up correctly to what the monthly graphs say.... So December 2015 includes 6 weeks which seem to be the 5 weeks ending Jan2nd 2016 but also adding in the week ending Jan3rd 2015 as well.

*Edit: Just checked and it isn't actually counted in Dec 2014 or Jan 15... but instead added into Dec 2015 for some reason.

Hi @HigHurtenflurst

It is very interesting what you point out. Obviously with all of these numbers and having to revise them will cause small Errors. It kind of seems like Months and years are calculated independently, or even manually. I got curious with your discovery and decided to do a little comparison between VGC months and using the method of giving the week to the month that has more days. It is obvious that I found many diferences, but one interesting thing is that some ocasions something that was added to one month ended up being distributed across at least two different months. This makes me wonder if it was manually edited.

It might be too much to share the whole chart here, but I highlighted some occasions where something was given to one month but then two months got that value distributed between them. Like PS3 months 3,4, and 5. In General these little details are minor numbers that probably got manually assigned. But something that is important is that all of these green and red numbers show that the system automatically just gives the week to the month it lands on at the end date. This might be something that @PAOerfulone might find interesting. 



DAMA (Month Aligned) Gap Charts Explanation

Switch Data Analysis: May Update (NS has record best May Year 5)

PS5 Data Analysis: OCT Update (PS5 Second best console after 12 Months)

XS Data Analysis: APR Update (XS hits a road bump)

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dmillos on 28 December 2020
RolStoppable said:

Still 10m ahead and only 10m left to go, but it looks like the PS4 and XB1 aren't going to make it. November was abysmal for both of them

A few months ago it would be crazy to think this would be a close race, PS4+XOne still have the advantage, but it is looking very unlikely fast.

If November was abysmal, December is not shaping up to be too good either.



DAMA (Month Aligned) Gap Charts Explanation

Switch Data Analysis: May Update (NS has record best May Year 5)

PS5 Data Analysis: OCT Update (PS5 Second best console after 12 Months)

XS Data Analysis: APR Update (XS hits a road bump)

curl-6 on 28 December 2020

I still think PS4 + Xbone will outsell PS3 + 360, much as I don't think they deserve to.
Just 10 million more, that's not much.



dmillos on 28 December 2020
curl-6 said:

I still think PS4 + Xbone will outsell PS3 + 360, much as I don't think they deserve to.
Just 10 million more, that's not much.

Hi @curl-6 I hope you are right. For reference here is how much consoles sold from the point the PS4 is currently at:

X360DSWiiPS3PSP3DSPSVWiiUPS4XONE
Total 85+15,009,9836,159,6901,686,1098,342,2328,949,0195,136,99049,1940891,199430,897
November2,404,8011,006,954215,502923,555445,270535,998840564,825247,922
December2,388,7581,115,618347,3721,172,9881,159,524673,05714,6620326,374182,975

The december values are not final for the PS4 and XONE. PS4 seems to be having similar numbers  to the 3DS,  that ended up making 5.1M while the XONE seems to be a bit higher than the Wii that sold 1.7M.

Hopefully this november and december were not the normal of what to expect for the rest of their life cycles. 



DAMA (Month Aligned) Gap Charts Explanation

Switch Data Analysis: May Update (NS has record best May Year 5)

PS5 Data Analysis: OCT Update (PS5 Second best console after 12 Months)

XS Data Analysis: APR Update (XS hits a road bump)

Elputoxd on 29 December 2020

Nah, no way they beat PS3+360. Also, I think the Series S and the Switch are going to cannibalize the casual market that wants a cheap console that isn't the most powerful device in the market and that doesn't care about how old a machine is.

In 2013-2014, those people had to buy a PS3 or a 360 because there were no alternatives for them, now they have the Series S and the Switch.



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S.Peelman on 29 December 2020

Before Covid I didn’t think 8th Gen would make it. Then the bump made me think it would, bit I’m now I’m sceptical again after this low holiday. It’ll be close. In fact I’d say PS4 beating GameBoy is also in jeopardy.



curl-6 on 29 December 2020
trunkswd said:

Share the article here.

Switch vs DS Sales Comparison - Switch Closes Gap by Over 1.6 Million in November 2020

his monthly series compares the aligned worldwide sales of the Nintendo Switch and the Nintendo DS.

Switch Vs. DS Global:

Gap change in latest month: 1,673,519 - Switch

Gap change over last 12 months: 1,443,235 - DS

Total Lead: 5,601,393 - DS

Switch Total Sales: 70,913,631

DS Total Sales: 76,515,024

November 2020 is the 54th month that the Nintendo Switch has been available for. During the latest month, the gap grew in favor of the Switch by 1.67 million units when compared to the Switch during the same timeframe. In the last 12 months, the DS has outsold the Switch by 1.44 million units. The DS is ahead of the Switch by 5.60 million units.

The DS launched in November 2004 in North America, December 2004 in Japan, and March 2005 in Europe, while the Nintendo Switch launched worldwide in March 2017. Therefore, the holiday periods for the two consoles do not lineup, which is why there are big increases and decreases.

The 45th month on sale for the Nintendo Switch is November 2020, while for the DS it is July 2008. The Switch has sold 70.91 million units, while the DS sold 76.52 million units during the same timeframe. The DS reached current Switch sales in month 42.

The Nintendo DS sold 154.02 million units lifetime. The Nintendo Switch is currently 83.11 million units behind the lifetime sales of the DS.

That Switch is managing to stay somewhat close to the freaking DS never stops amazing me. Especially when it still hasn't had a price cut and is selling for what, twice, three times what DS cost by this point?



PDiddy on 29 December 2020

The Switch just needs to keep with the DS for one more year, and then it will be much easier to get ahead of the DS. 2021 will be crucial.



curl-6 on 30 December 2020
trunkswd said:

Share the article here.

Switch vs PS4 in the US Sales Comparison - Switch Lead Continues to Grow in November 2020

This monthly series compares the aligned US sales of the Nintendo Switch and the PlayStation 4.

Switch Vs. PS4 US:

Gap change in latest month: 1,135,990 - Switch

Gap change over last 12 months: 3,908,200 - Switch

Total Lead: 4,563,824 - Switch

Switch Total Sales: 24,234,784

PS4 Total Sales: 19,670,960

November 2020 is the 45th month that the Nintendo Switch has been available for. During the latest month, the gap in the US between the Switch and PlayStation 4 grew in favor of the Switch when you align launches. The Switch sold 1.14 million more units than the PS4 in the last month. In the last 12 months, the Switch has grown its lead by 3.91 million units. The Switch currently leads by 4.56 million units.

The PS4 launched in the US on November 15, 2013, while the Switch launched on March 3, 2017. Therefore, the holiday periods for the two consoles do not lineup, which is why there are big increases and decreases.

The 45th month on sale for the Switch is November 2020, while for the PS4 it is July 2017. The Switch has sold 24.23 million units, while the PS4 sold 19.67 million units during the same timeframe. The PS4 did not reach the current Switch sales until month 55 where it sold a total of 24.47 million units.

The PS4 has been available for 85 months in the US and has sold 34.32 million units. The Switch is currently 10.09 million units behind the lifetime sales of the PS4.

So Switch has sold about 25% more launch aligned, and gained by over a third of PS4's current lead in the last 12 months. Switch should win this fairly decisively in the end.



DaAndy on 31 December 2020

Seems Switch should surpass PS4 lifetime sales in the US during Q1-Q2 2022. But of course it also depends on Sonys actions with PS4 like pricedrops.