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Will you be asking for a refund?

Yes 14 35.00%
 
No 26 65.00%
 
Total:40

Red Projekt bad.



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mZuzek said:
SvennoJ said:

No Man's sky was single player... Multiplayer was feature creep which they eventually had to put in.

It was literally promised before the game released.

Not the kind of multiplayer people were expecting and was eventually implemented
https://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/12/10/stop-thinking-of-no-man-s-sky-as-a-multiplayer-game.aspx
But true they had a form of being able to see others in game in mind. Essentially it was and still is a single player game, now with co-op options.

The hype got away from them, however CDPR carefully managed and flamed the hype at every single turn. They ran out of time, got caught with their pant down. Hopefully they learn from this mess. Hello Games turned things around, it's never too late. In the end actions speak louder than words. Stop with the PR and at least first inform Sony and MS that they'll refund the game before promising one thing while platform holders and retailers are still set to their no refund policy.



good on them to offer refunds



One thing that stands out to me is the Platform holders need to have a performance aspect included in their accreditation process.



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EricHiggin said:

Red Projekt bad.



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SvennoJ said:
mZuzek said:

It was literally promised before the game released.

Not the kind of multiplayer people were expecting and was eventually implemented
https://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/12/10/stop-thinking-of-no-man-s-sky-as-a-multiplayer-game.aspx
But true they had a form of being able to see others in game in mind. Essentially it was and still is a single player game, now with co-op options.

The hype got away from them, however CDPR carefully managed and flamed the hype at every single turn. They ran out of time, got caught with their pant down. Hopefully they learn from this mess. Hello Games turned things around, it's never too late. In the end actions speak louder than words. Stop with the PR and at least first inform Sony and MS that they'll refund the game before promising one thing while platform holders and retailers are still set to their no refund policy.

I mean... Personally, I find Cyberpunk in its current state to be a far more enjoyable game than No Man's Sky in its current state. Not even close. So, whatever I guess.




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mZuzek said:
SvennoJ said:

Not the kind of multiplayer people were expecting and was eventually implemented
https://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/12/10/stop-thinking-of-no-man-s-sky-as-a-multiplayer-game.aspx
But true they had a form of being able to see others in game in mind. Essentially it was and still is a single player game, now with co-op options.

The hype got away from them, however CDPR carefully managed and flamed the hype at every single turn. They ran out of time, got caught with their pant down. Hopefully they learn from this mess. Hello Games turned things around, it's never too late. In the end actions speak louder than words. Stop with the PR and at least first inform Sony and MS that they'll refund the game before promising one thing while platform holders and retailers are still set to their no refund policy.

I mean... Personally, I find Cyberpunk in its current state to be a far more enjoyable game than No Man's Sky in its current state. Not even close. So, whatever I guess.

What does that have to do with the bad release and the lies? Of course personal taste varies.

I would enjoy a buggy Cyberpunk over the most polished CoD game as well.



Good they at least admit some guilty, but their actions are very bad, they truly deserve lawsuit for false advertisement. They have had several delays because the product wasn't finished and we either had rumors or they publicly saying that was due to optimization to gen 8 consoles. Still the game runs with a lot of issues on PC as well, is a mess on gen 8 consoles (even more on base), and next gen will be after almost 6 months later release (because there they would have less sales anyway).
So it was a calculated thing, they didn't release earlier not because there were to many bugs, but certainly because some aspects weren't finished even in a poor state. The excuse that they underestimate the complexity or the state of their workers is a joke as well, unless they had monkeys on management board.
They didn't delay to cover the bugs because they wanted the 8M sales of preorder right now.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Vodacixi said:
Dulfite said:

I can tell your mother was/is good at laying down harsh, loving truth! :)

It totally is xD

But I must be thankful for that. I lied a lot when I was younger. And thanks to her I realized that trying to cover up my mistakes with lies (specially to the people I love) was one of the worst things you could do to yourself and your loved ones. 

Anyway, let's go back to CDProjekt xD

No need to get back to CDPR, their CEOs needed to have a mother like yours =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

sales2099 said:

(Watches from the sides as I wait for the next gen versions and patches)

But seriously what do some people expect when playing this on base Xbox one/PS4? It’s worse then I thought but no way would it come close to the PC version. 

Yes, people should accept that consoles will run it at 15fps so it doesn't get close to PC, and 720p at that so no one will confuse it with PC =p

CDPR made a very big blunder here. No one is expecting PS4 or X1 to run the game as good as a PC with a 3080, but the game should run smooth (close to locked 30fps) and at least base 720p without looking complete vaseline with very bad models.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."