Yep if they truly wanted to refund people they would have the e-mail to setup how it would be done (like returning a disc) and them giving a gift card or wired transfer. But nope they are just stating the obvious "use the refund already available, if you need us we will pretend nothing happened".

Even more damming, apparently

CDPR are not responding to GOG refund requests, either.

Good news is though, unlike Sony, people have no problem getting refunds from MS

Their own platform not giving refunds to their own game is bizarre to say the least.

Seems like some people have been able to get refund from Sony, (one even claimed Sony rep on phone said they would release a business complain against CDPR) but yep from what we usually hear it is much easier to get refunds from MS, possibly from Steam as well.

Have I said a 50-100 devs can release a AAA/AAAA game? Nope I said a team this size can release a game in this period, so to pretend the development didn't start back them because "only" 50-100 devs were involved in those 3 years is ludicrous.

There is no work around the incompetence of the developer. It is a 8 year project that still got 3 delays, plenty of false promises, and released very poorly with they knowing it.

You have made a great effort to try and defend CDPR and spread their guilty on the matter when it is 100% on them and bad project management and false marketing.

To be fair, GoG doesn't sell the console version and they didn't say the PC version was included for refund options (what options?)

In their eyes there is nothing wrong with the PC version, they dodged those questions by shifting complaints on the PC version as coming from console players. Meanwhile there are over 2,700 threads on Steam with technical problems on Cyberpunk, over 20% have left a not recommended review while plenty recommended reviews still state, game is great despite the bugs, better get a good pc or don't bother.

The terrible state the base console version is in is covering for the issues on PC, and the fact that a lot is missing / unfinished / not as promised.


It will all be fixed eventually, but they should have just launched it as early access on PC while withholding the console versions for now. They would still have made plenty money from early access sales while keeping their reputation intact.

Is MS better than Sony at giving refunds?

Nope, unless you take me for a dummy there is no way you would have interpreted I said 50-100 people could make Cyberpunk in 3 years.

Some kind? It is a totally mismanaged project with a lot of lies and false promises man. And if you look for game development you'll see that the core team and early stages are on smaller team usually and you don't even need the engine to determine most of what is done at those stages. They deciding to scrap all isn't really because of the change of engine, they most likely wanted to change more stuff.

PC should also be included for refund, a sale is a sale.

And worse than CDPR shift blaming to consoles are costumers themselves running with it and blaming Sony and MS for the mess.

It is what is usually said on the forum.

Sony and Microsoft are not innocent parties here either. Their game approval process must be pretty lax. Though I guess their major concern is whether software bricks hardware or not, not if it is buggy as hell to play.

Obviously both Sony and Microsoft were eager for the game to release as well, they probably knew the pre-order numbers, hell they both sell the game through their online stores. I doubt one wanted a situation where they denied approval and the other still allowed the game to release, essentially giving up timed exclusivity. Also there were marketing deals in place likely. Did Microsoft release that Cyberpunk branded Xbox One?

As someone with no interest in the game whatsoever who has avoided all hype materials for this game over the past few years, this is an amusing meltdown. I feel bad for gamers who were excited though.

True enough. In fact, this may actually be the case. Unfortunately, we'll never know, because in order to become the CEO of a big corporation you must be able to sell your own mother if success depends on it xD

From anecdotal comments, yes.

Personally I've had not trouble getting refunds from Sony (PSN credit to be precise). I never needed to get anything refunded from MS, although they did offer me my dollar back when I cancelled game pass before the trial was up :)

Considering the base XBox One version is by far the worst, while most complaints seem to be for getting refunds from Sony, I would guess it's easier to get a refund from MS.

It's worse for the physical version though, good luck trying to get a refund that way :/