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SvennoJ said:
DonFerrari said:

Yep if they truly wanted to refund people they would have the e-mail to setup how it would be done (like returning a disc) and them giving a gift card or wired transfer. But nope they are just stating the obvious "use the refund already available, if you need us we will pretend nothing happened".

Even more damming, apparently

CDPR are not responding to GOG refund requests, either.

Good news is though, unlike Sony, people have no problem getting refunds from MS

Their own platform not giving refunds to their own game is bizarre to say the least.

Seems like some people have been able to get refund from Sony, (one even claimed Sony rep on phone said they would release a business complain against CDPR) but yep from what we usually hear it is much easier to get refunds from MS, possibly from Steam as well.

shikamaru317 said:
DonFerrari said:

It is a 8 year project, and what you are saying if true again show they took a long time to define the scope then entered crushing to finish (a thing you discredited because it was Jason Schreier). Sorry but a team of 50-100 devs for 3 years would have released a full game, so no matter the engine storyline, scope, etc could have been finished in that timeframe.

I'm sorry, you think that a team of 50-100 devs can release a large scale AAA/AAAA game in 3 years? That is crazy. The current game we have now had 5 years of development with a team ranging between 250-500 devs (growing over time) and it had the full 500 for like the final year of development, and it is still buggy and running poorly on consoles. There is no way that the original small team that worked on it from 2012-2015 could have released Cyberpunk in 2015, especially since they decided they needed to upgrade their engine to make the game work. 

Have I said a 50-100 devs can release a AAA/AAAA game? Nope I said a team this size can release a game in this period, so to pretend the development didn't start back them because "only" 50-100 devs were involved in those 3 years is ludicrous.

There is no work around the incompetence of the developer. It is a 8 year project that still got 3 delays, plenty of false promises, and released very poorly with they knowing it.

You have made a great effort to try and defend CDPR and spread their guilty on the matter when it is 100% on them and bad project management and false marketing.



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