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Mnementh on 11 November 2020
KratosLives said:
i knew they should have went another 2 or 3 years before a new console.

I don't think so. Cross-gen games are a pro consumer move. Let's stop the bullshitting. I know fans are fast to claim this or that only works on a new gen. But reality is, that nearly everything is scalable. So the decision to release on one platform and not another is a decision purely informed by market pressure. Cross-gen games and multiplats are good for gamers, as it leaves them the choice. For instance over $60-games or $70-games.



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DonFerrari on 11 November 2020
KratosLives said:
i knew they should have went another 2 or 3 years before a new console.

PS4 sales have dropped tremendously and SW sales is nearing peak, so it was the time for a new console, besides giving MS 2 or 3 years of only next gen console would be to much.

Mnementh said:
Hynad said:
Azzanation said:
Damn Microsoft, when will they learn thats not a good idea.. oh wait.

Wait... Are people pretending it’s the first gen this is a thing?

Apparently they did then Microsoft announced they were doing this. But this is normal. It happened over time again and again. It is no surprise, the new installbase starts small and game projects often develop for years. So cross-gen games isn't all that surprising - yet each generation people act surprised. Microsoft was first to announce this at this gen, so they got a bigger amount of backlash. Announcing first is bad for some things.

Problem was more on MS saying they didn't want people to feel a need to next gen and that all their games on the next couple years would be crossgen. It didn't help that they then said it wouldn't hold back games at all and then show Halo Infinite.



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Mnementh on 11 November 2020
DonFerrari said:
KratosLives said:
i knew they should have went another 2 or 3 years before a new console.

PS4 sales have dropped tremendously and SW sales is nearing peak, so it was the time for a new console, besides giving MS 2 or 3 years of only next gen console would be to much.

Mnementh said:
Hynad said:
Azzanation said:
Damn Microsoft, when will they learn thats not a good idea.. oh wait.

Wait... Are people pretending it’s the first gen this is a thing?

Apparently they did then Microsoft announced they were doing this. But this is normal. It happened over time again and again. It is no surprise, the new installbase starts small and game projects often develop for years. So cross-gen games isn't all that surprising - yet each generation people act surprised. Microsoft was first to announce this at this gen, so they got a bigger amount of backlash. Announcing first is bad for some things.

Problem was more on MS saying they didn't want people to feel a need to next gen and that all their games on the next couple years would be crossgen. It didn't help that they then said it wouldn't hold back games at all and then show Halo Infinite.

Halo Infinite needed more time in the oven. Also nothing new. Oftentimes launch games are rushed, because they aren't released when ready, but at the launch of the hardware.



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LurkerJ on 11 November 2020

Wouldn't be surprised if they started to mandate that all their first party games should be cross gen for the next few years, the competition is weak for the foreseeable future which gives SONY a bigger room to maximize profits until the competition catches up with their software output.



DonFerrari on 11 November 2020
Mnementh said:
DonFerrari said:
KratosLives said:
i knew they should have went another 2 or 3 years before a new console.

PS4 sales have dropped tremendously and SW sales is nearing peak, so it was the time for a new console, besides giving MS 2 or 3 years of only next gen console would be to much.

Mnementh said:
Hynad said:
Azzanation said:
Damn Microsoft, when will they learn thats not a good idea.. oh wait.

Wait... Are people pretending it’s the first gen this is a thing?

Apparently they did then Microsoft announced they were doing this. But this is normal. It happened over time again and again. It is no surprise, the new installbase starts small and game projects often develop for years. So cross-gen games isn't all that surprising - yet each generation people act surprised. Microsoft was first to announce this at this gen, so they got a bigger amount of backlash. Announcing first is bad for some things.

Problem was more on MS saying they didn't want people to feel a need to next gen and that all their games on the next couple years would be crossgen. It didn't help that they then said it wouldn't hold back games at all and then show Halo Infinite.

Halo Infinite needed more time in the oven. Also nothing new. Oftentimes launch games are rushed, because they aren't released when ready, but at the launch of the hardware.

Totally agree, just saying why I think MS got a lot more complain over the crossgen subject.



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The_Liquid_Laser on 11 November 2020

Switch PS5 is just a machine for porting games.



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KLXVER on 11 November 2020

I hope so. I would like Demons Souls remake and God Of War Ragnarok on the PS4.



Wman1996 on 11 November 2020

If this is for third-party games, fine. That's to be expected. If it's for first-party games, it's really stupid. Why limit your exclusive titles by making them compatible on a last-gen machine? I get having some games at the start have cross-gen compatibility. But if we get 1-2 first-party titles each year from 2021-2023, that's dumb. We know Ratchet & Clank and God of War will be PS5-only (and probably Gran Turismo). That's how it should be.I'm not getting a PS5 until 2022 or 2023 anyway.



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Sogreblute on 11 November 2020

Right now from what I'm seeing Sony is making their more popular IP cross gen and having the rest exclusive to PS5. If this holds true then God of War will also be cross gen.



Maynard_Tool on 11 November 2020

This will be perfect. If GoW2 (among other games) is cross gen, then ill just wait for ps5 slim. No rush to replace my ps4



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