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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Signalstar said:

- Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury

- New Pokemon Snap

- Bayonetta 3

- The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword 10 Year Anniversary HD

- Metroid Prime 4

- Tomodachi Collection Switch

- Xenoblade Chronicles XX

- Pokemon Divine Diamond and Power Pearl

- Switch Pro

- Switch Pricecut

Anything less and I will burn my Switch in the streets.

Wouldn't be so sure about the pricecut...

No they are definitely dropping the price next year. Switch will be entering it's fifth year and it will be the same price has the Series S. They are starting to drop price on accessories. I'm also thinking we should be seeing the Nintendo Select line coming next year as well.

And if the Pro rumours are true, i'm expecting them to drop the Switch by 100$ and put the pro at regular price/350$ and drop the lite to 150$



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Wman1996 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

If Switch doesn't deliver a great year for 2021, I'm going to assume that Nintendo thinks it's okay to abandon it's hardware mid to late gen. Gamecube had a pretty weak 2005 and an almost non-existant 2006 in terms of games. Wii's 2011 and 2012 were pretty barren as well. As Switch's 4th year 2020 has been very barren in terms of high new profile quality releases. If Nintendo has 2021 be another year with only 2-3 new high profile quality releases, then I'm going to assume that Nintendo consoles will always be front loaded, with little software support in the later years.

There's no excuse for 2021 being another light year though. BotW 2, Bayonetta 3, and Odyssey 2 should have been completed in 2020. And Nintendo has to have more than just those three games in the oven right now.

Yup.

People are criticizing me for ignoring third-party titles and first-party ports/remakes. I'm glad they exist because they give us more to play. Switch is doing far better with third-party than Wii U, and seems to have a better selection of third-party than N64 or GameCube as well.

But just look at Switch's top 20 selling games on the charts here.

Only three first-party Wii U ports (granted one is the best-selling Switch game), one cross-gen Nintendo game, two remakes, and one third-party game that uses Mario in a crossover. 

That leaves 13 sequels or new IPs that are first-party. New first-party games move Switch consoles, the ports/remakes and third-party games are an added bonus.

2020 has been a letdown for new Nintendo titles, and I'm just telling people to hope but not expect for 2021 to be much different. I would not put it past Nintendo at all to coast off of their evergreen first-party titles already released and not release as many first-party games for the rest of Switch's life as they should. This could be the GameCube and Wii all over again.

One reason the top 20 excludes third party games is that we usually don't know what the sales are of most third party games.  For example, what are the sales of Minecraft on the Switch?  No one knows, but it is very likely above the 2.6m that the #20 game is currently listed at.  How about Just Dance 2020?  That's another decent candidate for the top 20, but we don't know its sales.

Next year Monster Hunter Rise will release.  That is a significant release.  It doesn't matter if it's first party or third party.  A major exclusive is a major exclusive.  It is extremely likely to be in Switch's top 20 selling games.  If we are evaluating Switch's 2021 lineup then major third party games need to be taken into consideration.



My 2021 Expectations:
-BOTW 2
-Zelda 35th Collection, includes Windwaker,Twilight Princess,Skyward Sword
-2D Metroid
-Another Life-Simulator game (Like Tomadachi Life)
-New Mainline Kirby(Been a while since a true Kirby game so it makes sense)
-Pokemon Snap
-New Mario Party
-Switch Pro Holiday 2021 Release

Stuff We already know that's coming:
-Mario 3D World DX
-Monster Hunter Rise

I also feel like an entirely new 3D Mario Game has a strong possibility of happening in 2021 since it's about to be nearly 4 years since Mario Odyssey released and Nintendo EPD usually makes a new 3D Mario game within the average 2-4 year timeframe. However, I'm somewhat doubtful that it'll release this year because:

1.Zelda BOTW 2 is expected to release this year and I can't see Nintendo wanting to canibalize their sales by releasing a new 3D Mario and BOTW 2 in the same holiday season, and I can't see Nintendo releasing a new 3D Mario early in the year when Nintendo will likely push to market 3D World DX for the first few quarters of 2021.

2. The Pandemic probably pushed 3D Mario's development further back and most likely delayed it.

I'm also going to be a pessimist and predict that Bayonetta 3 won't release this year. I feel like if it was we would at least see SOMETHING at this point but we've seen nothing at all besides someone saying development is going well, and I'm sure that the pandemic pushed the game well behind schedule to the point where I don't believe it'll release in 2021, more likely a 2022 title. If it weren't for the pandemic I would've likely predicted it to be a 2021 title.

Prime 4 being a 2021 title imo is wishful thinking. That game at the earliest will release 2022, no way 2021 especially with the Pandemic.

Last edited by javi741 - on 23 October 2020

Wman1996 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

If Switch doesn't deliver a great year for 2021, I'm going to assume that Nintendo thinks it's okay to abandon it's hardware mid to late gen. Gamecube had a pretty weak 2005 and an almost non-existant 2006 in terms of games. Wii's 2011 and 2012 were pretty barren as well. As Switch's 4th year 2020 has been very barren in terms of high new profile quality releases. If Nintendo has 2021 be another year with only 2-3 new high profile quality releases, then I'm going to assume that Nintendo consoles will always be front loaded, with little software support in the later years.

There's no excuse for 2021 being another light year though. BotW 2, Bayonetta 3, and Odyssey 2 should have been completed in 2020. And Nintendo has to have more than just those three games in the oven right now.

Yup.

People are criticizing me for ignoring third-party titles and first-party ports/remakes. I'm glad they exist because they give us more to play. Switch is doing far better with third-party than Wii U, and seems to have a better selection of third-party than N64 or GameCube as well.

But just look at Switch's top 20 selling games on the charts here.

Only three first-party Wii U ports (granted one is the best-selling Switch game), one cross-gen Nintendo game, two remakes, and one third-party game that uses Mario in a crossover. 

That leaves 13 sequels or new IPs that are first-party. New first-party games move Switch consoles, the ports/remakes and third-party games are an added bonus.

2020 has been a letdown for new Nintendo titles, and I'm just telling people to hope but not expect for 2021 to be much different. I would not put it past Nintendo at all to coast off of their evergreen first-party titles already released and not release as many first-party games for the rest of Switch's life as they should. This could be the GameCube and Wii all over again.

Yeah, and people got sick of that little game, and decided to drop the Wii U like a hot potato. A massive part of the Wii U failing was that there was all this backlash from people who were expecting better software support for the Wii. 2011-2012 was deadsville, and 2009-2010 was pretty light. It really didn't help that 3rd parties barely supported the Wii either. I'm a hardcore Wii collector and only have 20 games for the system. Even if I were to really stretch the library out I might somehow get to 30 titles. Meanwhile I have over 100 Switch games.

The_Liquid_Laser said:
Wman1996 said:

Yup.

People are criticizing me for ignoring third-party titles and first-party ports/remakes. I'm glad they exist because they give us more to play. Switch is doing far better with third-party than Wii U, and seems to have a better selection of third-party than N64 or GameCube as well.

But just look at Switch's top 20 selling games on the charts here.

Only three first-party Wii U ports (granted one is the best-selling Switch game), one cross-gen Nintendo game, two remakes, and one third-party game that uses Mario in a crossover. 

That leaves 13 sequels or new IPs that are first-party. New first-party games move Switch consoles, the ports/remakes and third-party games are an added bonus.

2020 has been a letdown for new Nintendo titles, and I'm just telling people to hope but not expect for 2021 to be much different. I would not put it past Nintendo at all to coast off of their evergreen first-party titles already released and not release as many first-party games for the rest of Switch's life as they should. This could be the GameCube and Wii all over again.

One reason the top 20 excludes third party games is that we usually don't know what the sales are of most third party games.  For example, what are the sales of Minecraft on the Switch?  No one knows, but it is very likely above the 2.6m that the #20 game is currently listed at.  How about Just Dance 2020?  That's another decent candidate for the top 20, but we don't know its sales.

Next year Monster Hunter Rise will release.  That is a significant release.  It doesn't matter if it's first party or third party.  A major exclusive is a major exclusive.  It is extremely likely to be in Switch's top 20 selling games.  If we are evaluating Switch's 2021 lineup then major third party games need to be taken into consideration.

@Bolded: Very True. MH sells like crazy. Hopefully it will stay exclusive to Switch for at least a couple years.



Don't tell me what to do. 2021 will be the best year in gaming history baby!!!

For real though, I think 2021 will be solid for Nintendo. How solid exactly is hard to tell without much being announced yet. But with Animal Crossing carring over the 2020, it sort of makes sense to hold most of their relevant games for after the new gen is out to boost momentum against the competition.



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I don't expect anything in particular, I'm not pick and give chances to many new franchises and smaller projects


Just need steady stream of games so maybe I can choose one every month/every two months

I do hope they are either AAA or first party though. I love indies, but I can buy them on Steam for much better prices



I say 30 million switch sold for 2021



I temper my expectation and say only 25M+ will be sold



i've simply tempered my expectations for nintendo overall. its' been working out well.



Do majority of people actually expect much?

Most just hope Nintendo don't abandon their console early I would argue lol