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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Let's Temper Our 2021 Nintendo Expectations

noname2200 said:
Mnementh said:
"-At least one more Wii U port"
The air starts to get thin for WiiU-ports, as most games are already ported. But yeah, if we restrict this to Nintendo (and not include say ZombiU) there are still the HD-Zelda remasters open....

Besides that I only remember Xenoblade Chronicles X as title that remains.

Not counting stuff like Amiibo Festival, there's also Kirby and Starfox. And Nintendo Land...?

But yeah, it's slim pickings at this point.

Well, Nintendo Land is technically impossible, since it relies too much on separate interaction between the Gamepad and the TV.

Amiibo Festival reminds me that Nintendo really could make some game which is technically free-to-start (as they prefer to call free2play games), but needs Amiibos to work. Could actually be tied together with some Captain N revival, since that one also visited so many different gameworlds as you would with the amiibos...

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Wman1996 said:
xPhenom08x said:
What exactly are our expectations?

In general I've seen people on Twitter and on VGChartz telling us to just be patient. That they understand Switch's 2020 could've been a little better in terms of software and transparency from Nintendo. 

All I'm saying is don't expect Super Mario Odyssey 2, Mario Kart 9, Breath of the Wild 2, a new IP, and Pokemon Gen IV remakes all in the same year. We'll be lucky to get 2-3 of those, not all 5.

Metroid Prime 4 is not happening in 2021. Development restarted in 2019. It will release in 2022-2023. Bayonetta 3 might not even be a 2021 release considering we know virtually nothing about it.

Excluding remakes and ports, we've only gotten 5 first-party titles in 2020 (Hyrule Warriors counts as one of those 5, but it's not out yet). That would be a fine amount for Sony and Microsoft. But this is Nintendo. They are very dependent on first-party games to make the console enjoyable.

All I'm saying is that we shouldn't expect more than 6-7 non remake/port first-party titles in 2021. Nintendo has still not reaped most of the software schedule and release benefits of having a unified platform.

No one expected that, being told to be patient doesn't mean you can just pull nonsense out of thin air. This is nothing more than a thinly disguised Nintendo whining thread. It has all the cliches. Ports/remakes don't count, third party releases don't count, and why don't we know anything beyond (insert latest known dated release). News flash! You aren't exactly an authority on what it takes to be a good or bad year. 

What I dont understand from people like you that post this drivel is why exactly do you all think Ninty shouldn't take into account of their ports, remakes, and third party releases? Like why would Ninty release Pokemon Snap for example in March knowing momentum from Monster Hunter will keep Switch afloat? Do you not understand that ports make money and sell consoles just like new releases, not every release is going to sell gangbusters rather port or new. Ninty doesn't just sell games,, they sell consoles as well, so strategic scheduling makes sense right? Ninty also doesn't have an infinite amount of resources and ip, so just releasing blockbuster after blockbuster would destroy another year which then destroys momentum. 

Your expectations of Ninty don't mean a thing, they are in route to posting one of the highest years in history(higher than Sony or Micro have ever been) so believe me they don't need your advice. People are hyped for next year because of all the realistic possibilities, not Mario Kart 9, Super Mario Odyssey 2, Botw2, and Pokemon Gen 4 remake. We only know of one of those games lol. People are hyped for things we already know of including third parties lol. SM3DW +BF, MW Rise, MH Stories 2, Bayo 3, BoTW 2, Poke Snap, NMH3, BD 2, and SMT V. Those are just the games we know are coming or being worked and probably close to release. I could name more possibilities and no I don't expect to get all of that but all the possibilities make for an exciting year. 

Well if 2021 will be as anemic as 2020 then it's time to buy another console

Last edited by IcaroRibeiro - on 21 October 2020

Also I just want to say that, honestly, as much as we criticize people for setting their expectations too high and then being disappointed, I think telling people to lower expectations is even worse. It's a Nintendo console, they sell their consoles based almost entirely off their games or exclusive software. It's really not excusable to tell people to keep expectations low for the console's most important publisher.

Heck, a lot of the people that are disappointed each year, are disappointed every year, and don't hype up any year in particular anyways. So it just feels kind of weird.

I have rather large expectations, and I don't plan to shelve them.

2020 has been a relatively meager year for Nintendo in terms of new first party content. 2021 will represent four years of development time since Nintendo's blockbuster 2017. Third-parties late to the Switch party should be turning out more titles as well. Those three things combined point to a huge year in 2021.

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Nintendo is reactive. It really depends on how successful the Switch continues to be in 2021. If the Switch is still selling like hotcakes to the point where Nintendo is having trouble maintaining supply, then why on earth would they want to tap the well and increase demand more by delivering more AAA titles hastily? That said, if the PS5 comes on to the scene and starts decimating the Switch's sales, Nintendo will react by teasing and pushing out a lot of what is in their pipeline. What we see come from Nintendo in 2021 will depend heavily on how much the Switch's sales start to diminish in 2021.

If the Switch drops like a rock next year (which I highly doubt, but let's just say hypothetically) then I think BotW2 could be expedited along with possibly a few new IP's, remakes and probably a pro model of the Switch that has upgraded graphics using Nvidia's AI upscaling or something. Nintendo would probably ensure that BotW made heavy use of the new upgraded graphics and that it is a premiere title of sorts for the new release to encourage people to upgrade from their current Switch models. There would also be a ton of hype around the new Zelda.

But even if the Switch drops like a rock next year, it will take a lot before we see the level of innovation that came from Nintendo in the latter part of the Wii U era and start of the Switch era (the genre re-defining megatons like BotW, Splatoon, Mario Maker, Mario Galaxy, etc...). At this point, the Switch will ride on momentum alone probably until it hits 110-120 million at the absolute minimum regardless of what Nintendo does. This is unfortunate for gamers in some ways, though, since Nintendo only performs at the top of their game when they are absolutely desperate. When Nintendo is successful like they are right now, they basically go into sleep mode until their next platform bombs. I wouldn't expect anything but lazy remakes from Nintendo for as long as the Switch remains as successful as it currently is.

I have high expectations but I have no specific expectations. I was worried for a good part of this year but even with the pandemic I think they had a great year IMO. For me, Age of Calamity pushed this year into greatness. Everything else was a bonus. I expect to be surprised by something next year.


burninmylight said:
noname2200 said:

Not counting stuff like Amiibo Festival, there's also Kirby and Starfox. And Nintendo Land...?

But yeah, it's slim pickings at this point.

Fatal Frame. Would be perfect about a year from now.

I keep forgetting about that one!

I don't get that "it's october already and all we know is..." when we literally know so much about next year already compared to previous years. 2021 will easily be the best year yet for the Switch idc.

-Starts off the year with a 3D Mario title. It's a port with what looks like a significant add on.
-Monster Hunter Rise in March
-New Pokemon Snap def coming out around Spring
-Bravely Default II
-SMT III remake
-SMT V (although i do think this one won't make the cut)
-NMH 3 has to come out next year also
-MH stories

Now for stuff that aren't really set in stones but have a pretty high chance to be there :

-Switch revision
-Bayonetta 3
-Botw 2
-Zelda anniversary (SS HD probably)
-Metroid Anniversary (MPTrilogy ?)
-Something new from the Mario team since i don't think Bowser's fury took them 4 years
-Probably a new mainline Pokemon game from Gamefreak. Expecting Gen 4 remake for the Pokemon Anniversary

They should expand on Ring fit adventure and Mario Party as well. We will get new Smash DLC and AC updates. N64 or Gameboy emulator to NSO
I'm not expecting all of them to be present next year, probably not like the mainline Mario game and like SMTV. But the rest chances are they should be there cause that's just how it's going to be idk what to tell you otherwise. Zelda won't take over 4 and a half year for a sequel and miss the anniversary. Gamefreak won't miss the anniversary and skip 2 years without a new game. Bayonneta 3 should be ready for next year. MP trilogy just makes too much sense with anniversary and since MP4 should be coming in 2022/2023. I think it's mainly cause some titles skipped 2020 that 2021 will be big. But it will be big.

- Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury

- New Pokemon Snap

- Bayonetta 3

- The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword 10 Year Anniversary HD

- Metroid Prime 4

- Tomodachi Collection Switch

- Xenoblade Chronicles XX

- Pokemon Divine Diamond and Power Pearl

- Switch Pro

- Switch Pricecut

Anything less and I will burn my Switch in the streets.

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