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The thing that most makes me feel this is unlikely is that I can see Nintendo being super stubborn on pricing and never making the Switch as cheap as it needs to be to outsell PS2 and DS.



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The problem with the push for that high of a number is I suspect it means they will have too many software teams working on and releasing Switch games late in it's lifespan, meaning they will not launch the Switch successor with enough games to make it have a healthy launch. And they are already going to be struggling with next gen. They like to make a device, then make the next one similar in graphics. GameCube to Wii was hardly different visually. Wii U was a massive jump, then Switch was hardly better visually. That means Switch 2 should be another massive jump and their dev teams are going to have to get used to it. They admitted how much of a struggle HD was to get used to on Wii U, which is why that system had few games compared to Switch (by that time they worked out the kinks).



mZuzek said:
Nogamez said:
Releasing some actual games would help.

Not gonna lie, I'm glad people like you are still around. Never gets old.

Anyway.

Don't think they can hit 150M, not because there's no way it could ever happen, but because I can't see Nintendo doing everything that's necessary to reach that sales milestone. They do need to put out some real system-sellers with more consistency, but more importantly, they need to keep pushing the console with new games and revisions, deep into its lifetime. Don't think the Switch has a shot if the next console comes out before 2025, honestly. But just generally it's an issue of Nintendo consoles not having very good legs - that isn't quite true for the handhelds, but we can't know for sure if the Switch will keep this up for much longer, especially with the arrival of next gen. At the very least, a price cut would be a very important move, and it should be done this winter, though obviously that won't happen. To be fair, people don't seem to care too much at the prospect of overpaying for anything with a Nintendo brand these days.

I'd say the Switch is gonna end up somewhere around 110-120 million lifetime.

Should be glad anybodys still around here. Pretty much a dead site. Also im not joking the release schedule for nintedo in 20/21 is abysmal. 



curl-6 said:
The thing that most makes me feel this is unlikely is that I can see Nintendo being super stubborn on pricing and never making the Switch as cheap as it needs to be to outsell PS2 and DS.

Nintendo has not had a reason to drop the price yet, so this does not yet apply.  With the packed release potential of exclusive games next year, sales could even be as close (or higher) than this year, so a price cut would still make little sense.



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mZuzek said:
Nogamez said:
Releasing some actual games would help.

Not gonna lie, I'm glad people like you are still around. Never gets old.

Anyway.

Don't think they can hit 150M, not because there's no way it could ever happen, but because I can't see Nintendo doing everything that's necessary to reach that sales milestone. They do need to put out some real system-sellers with more consistency, but more importantly, they need to keep pushing the console with new games and revisions, deep into its lifetime. Don't think the Switch has a shot if the next console comes out before 2025, honestly. But just generally it's an issue of Nintendo consoles not having very good legs - that isn't quite true for the handhelds, but we can't know for sure if the Switch will keep this up for much longer, especially with the arrival of next gen. At the very least, a price cut would be a very important move, and it should be done this winter, though obviously that won't happen. To be fair, people don't seem to care too much at the prospect of overpaying for anything with a Nintendo brand these days.

I'd say the Switch is gonna end up somewhere around 110-120 million lifetime.

Not gonna lie, I'm glad people like you are still around. Never gets old.

LTD at the end of 2019: ~49m
End of 2020: ~76m
End of 2021: ~100m

Then comes the cliff in 2022 and Switch fails to sell more than the PS4.

On topic: Nintendo needs to let the market decide how long Switch is allowed to live.



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Shiken said:
curl-6 said:
The thing that most makes me feel this is unlikely is that I can see Nintendo being super stubborn on pricing and never making the Switch as cheap as it needs to be to outsell PS2 and DS.

Nintendo has not had a reason to drop the price yet, so this does not yet apply.  With the packed release potential of exclusive games next year, sales could even be as close (or higher) than this year, so a price cut would still make little sense.

For the moment, sure, a price cut isn't needed this year or probably even next year. But in 2022, 2023, if they really want to maximise sales they should drop the price to get it down to easy impulse buy territory, but I wonder if they will or if they'll be stubborn.

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Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

curl-6 said:
Shiken said:

Nintendo has not had a reason to drop the price yet, so this does not yet apply.  With the packed release potential of exclusive games next year, sales could even be as close (or higher) than this year, so a price cut would still make little sense.

For the moment, sure, a price cut isn't needed this year or probably even next year. But in 2022, 2023, if they really want to maximise sales they should drop the price to get it down to easy impulse buy territory, but I wonder if they will or if they'll be stubborn.

When has Nintendo ever not dropped the price?

There's only the Wii U that didn't see another price drop after its initial $50 one. That was because of a lot of custom parts for the console in combination with its low sales volume.



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Leynos said:
wohufana said:

It can never be. $99 a decade ago is not the same $99 in 2020s, much more in 2024, after 7 years in the market.

I was waiting for someone to take my comment too seriously. I never said it was a reality they will lower the price to $99. I just said that's what it will take to get to 150. Aka they won't.

It’s going to get to 100mil just fine with it’s intial MRSP. Don’t think they have to drop it to $99 unless they care about 200mil goal lol

Nogamez said:
mZuzek said:

Not gonna lie, I'm glad people like you are still around. Never gets old.

Anyway.

Don't think they can hit 150M, not because there's no way it could ever happen, but because I can't see Nintendo doing everything that's necessary to reach that sales milestone. They do need to put out some real system-sellers with more consistency, but more importantly, they need to keep pushing the console with new games and revisions, deep into its lifetime. Don't think the Switch has a shot if the next console comes out before 2025, honestly. But just generally it's an issue of Nintendo consoles not having very good legs - that isn't quite true for the handhelds, but we can't know for sure if the Switch will keep this up for much longer, especially with the arrival of next gen. At the very least, a price cut would be a very important move, and it should be done this winter, though obviously that won't happen. To be fair, people don't seem to care too much at the prospect of overpaying for anything with a Nintendo brand these days.

I'd say the Switch is gonna end up somewhere around 110-120 million lifetime.

Should be glad anybodys still around here. Pretty much a dead site. Also im not joking the release schedule for nintedo in 20/21 is abysmal. 

Can you see the future? Didn’t realize Nintendo 2021 release list was known at this early time.

funny cuz 2021 seems more like it could potentiallybe NSW best Software year in terms of releases but hey who knows



tbone51 said:
Leynos said:

I was waiting for someone to take my comment too seriously. I never said it was a reality they will lower the price to $99. I just said that's what it will take to get to 150. Aka they won't.

It’s going to get to 100mil just fine with it’s intial MRSP. Don’t think they have to drop it to $99 unless they care about 200mil goal lol

Nogamez said:

Should be glad anybodys still around here. Pretty much a dead site. Also im not joking the release schedule for nintedo in 20/21 is abysmal. 

Can you see the future? Didn’t realize Nintendo 2021 release list was known at this early time.

funny cuz 2021 seems more like it could potentiallybe NSW best Software year in terms of releases but hey who knows

No said it would not hit 100mil. That's a no-duh but it's not hitting a 150



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Leynos said:
tbone51 said:

It’s going to get to 100mil just fine with it’s intial MRSP. Don’t think they have to drop it to $99 unless they care about 200mil goal lol

Can you see the future? Didn’t realize Nintendo 2021 release list was known at this early time.

funny cuz 2021 seems more like it could potentiallybe NSW best Software year in terms of releases but hey who knows

No said it would not hit 100mil. That's a no-duh but it's not hitting a 150

I’m not saying it’s guaranteed to hit 150mil, my point was that if it hits 100mil without a price drop then 150mil goal doesn’t need any sku to ever hit the $99 price tag. Meaning it’s realistic for a 150mil goal without $99 price cut