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Your view of the competitive landscape as of 2021

Level playing field (all three fairly equal) 20 24.10%
 
Strongly slanted Playstation 8 9.64%
 
Strongly slanted Nintendo 16 19.28%
 
Strongly slanted Microsoft 2 2.41%
 
Strongly slanted Nintendo & Playstation 35 42.17%
 
Strongly slanted Microsoft & Playstation 0 0.00%
 
Strongly slanted Microsoft & Nintendo 2 2.41%
 
Total:83
Soundwave said:
Darwinianevolution said:
Even after the adquisition, I still want to see if Microsoft is going to reinforce their dedication to hardware or if they are going to focus more on making the Game Pass accessible to more platforms.

GamePass isn't some "side thing" though if it gains massive traction, then the idea of the console itself begins to get very blurry. 

I know, that's the thing. GamePass can become the most profitable part of XBox if they handle it correctly. I'm pretty sure they would gladly abandon the hardware market entirely if they could offer their Game Pass on Nintendo and PlayStation consoles.



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Darwinianevolution said:
Soundwave said:

GamePass isn't some "side thing" though if it gains massive traction, then the idea of the console itself begins to get very blurry. 

I know, that's the thing. GamePass can become the most profitable part of XBox if they handle it correctly. I'm pretty sure they would gladly abandon the hardware market entirely if they could offer their Game Pass on Nintendo and PlayStation consoles.

I'm not sure there even is a Playstation if MS' vision of what the console market is going to become turns out. 



My intuition tells me that Nintendo and Microsoft will dominated the market this generation.



I am a Nintendo fanatic.

Soundwave said:
Darwinianevolution said:

I know, that's the thing. GamePass can become the most profitable part of XBox if they handle it correctly. I'm pretty sure they would gladly abandon the hardware market entirely if they could offer their Game Pass on Nintendo and PlayStation consoles.

I'm not sure there even is a Playstation if MS' vision of what the console market is going to become turns out. 

And Sony is going to try to stop the GamePass at all costs. Right now, Microsoft can only offer it on XBox and on PC. Neither Nintendo or Sony will allow Microsoft to add their GamePass on their ecosystem, else they would eat their software sales in their own platform. On PC they will have to deal with tons of competition from regular storefronts and other digital renting services, but on XBox they have the whole cake for themselves. They need to expand their XBox userbase to maximize the profits of the GamePass.



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With the EA deal, now Bethesda, and maybe one day WB, I see the following happen:
Sony wins Europe.
Nintendo wins Asia.
Microsoft wins USA.
Sony and Microsoft close in worldwide sales with Nintendo winning slightly (during that 5-6 year cycle window).



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1.  Just have to say there was only one successful home console in Generation 7, the Wii.  Sony and Microsoft both posted huge losses from their gaming divisions throughout the generation while Nintendo posted record profits.  Only Nintendo's system was successful and it wasn't even close (not in profits, which is the only metric that matters for a company's success).

2. The console market is definitely not stabliizing.  It is transforming quite a bit.  Nintendo and Sony are the only true competitors left in the traditional sense, and Nintendo is about to clobber Sony.  Microsoft and Google are playing a different game.  They are both trying to become the "Netflix of gaming" and they want to get their subscription services on as many platforms as possible, which might even include Switch and PS5 if they are allowed.  The Series X really doesn't even matter anymore.  It is a token piece of hardware.  Microsoft's real focus is on Gamepass/xCloud at this point.

So there are two battles that are about to happen: Nintendo vs. Sony and Microsoft vs. Google.  But Microsoft and Google are going to try their best to get on every piece of hardware they can including Switch and PS5.  The console market is changing a lot.



I do think Bethesda will balance things for Microsoft at least if they don't ruin it, but with the amount of titles they have it's insane



It will still be Sony and Nintendo's market for the next year at least. Switch sales won't significantly drop until 2022 or 2023. PS5 will surely start stronger out of the gate than the Xbox Series X.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

PS4: 130 mil (was 100 million) Xbox One: 55 mil (was 50 mil) Switch: 110 million (was 73, then 96 million)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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Lol at multiple market leaders. Its ok guys, Sony lost. Switch is set to sell more consoles in a year than anything else besides DS. This is no 3 way tie, Nintendo is simply the biggest global brand.



Microsoft has 21% market share. I need a lot more than loud people on the internet to show me that the industry is anything other than Nintendo and Sony slanted.



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