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QUAKECore89 said:

Fascinating news i ever heard, Miles Morales is clearly a PS4 game, i get this one though but... Horizon Forbidden West... I wonder if this is whether a scaled down PS5 game or not.

Yep Horizon Forbidden West is the great question mark. Will there be two versions, will they design in a way that even one version it won`t jeopardize or will PS4 really hold the game down... I`m very curious about it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Horizon is disappointing. I'd loved to have seen some fast flying mounts and it seems unlikely now.

I wouldn't get too carried away as Ratchet, GT7, GOW, Demon's Souls haven't had a PS4 version announced.

Doesn't mean it's not happening but this is a lil bit of an over reaction.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
Horizon is disappointing. I'd loved to have seen some fast flying mounts and it seems unlikely now.

I wouldn't get too carried away as Ratchet, GT7, GOW, Demon's Souls haven't had a PS4 version announced.

Doesn't mean it's not happening but this is a lil bit of an over reaction.

If the game was already in development and had the confirmation of the fast flying mount I don`t think that is being dropped from PS5 version. Either the flying in PS4 will be slow or will be blurry or removed from it only.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
ArchangelMadzz said:
Horizon is disappointing. I'd loved to have seen some fast flying mounts and it seems unlikely now.

I wouldn't get too carried away as Ratchet, GT7, GOW, Demon's Souls haven't had a PS4 version announced.

Doesn't mean it's not happening but this is a lil bit of an over reaction.

If the game was already in development and had the confirmation of the fast flying mount I don`t think that is being dropped from PS5 version. Either the flying in PS4 will be slow or will be blurry or removed from it only.

Just weird to have little removals like that, then you'd rightfully expect as a PS4 owner for the game to be cheaper. But Sony are doing free next gen upgrades so then you'd just buy the PS4 version and upgrade. 

So either they charge PS4 owners the same for a game with less content or they strip the ps5 version of perks and features. 

Horizon came out in 2017, I don't know if specs were finalised at that time maybe 2018 and we wouldn't have a PS4 version. It's unfortunate nonetheless. I do expect a PS4 version of GT7 but I'd be surprised if we saw anything else. 



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I'm not sure if Spiderman is licenced from IP owners, not going cross-gen at this point in time seems very expensive with licenced IP like that.
Horizon does seem disappointing from perspective of championing nextgen, I would even include Sackboy in that as well, but I guess Sony
seems these as strong IPs they depend on exploiting fully yet maybe in case of Sackboy is more niche and so can't go full nextgen exclusive?

I think Sony does need to publicly commit to more upcoming games being nextgen exclusive if they want to salvage their credibility here.
Realistically this isn't strange for platform launch, but they need to emphasize how ongoing development is focused on nextgen exclusivity.



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Not so long ago people were drooling over the horizon trailer now just bc there's a ps4 version announcement I only see despise for the game...
How shallow a person can be.. guess it's only the next gen status that matters

Let it go your ego, just assume you were admiring a cross gen title

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ArchangelMadzz said:
DonFerrari said:

If the game was already in development and had the confirmation of the fast flying mount I don`t think that is being dropped from PS5 version. Either the flying in PS4 will be slow or will be blurry or removed from it only.

Just weird to have little removals like that, then you'd rightfully expect as a PS4 owner for the game to be cheaper. But Sony are doing free next gen upgrades so then you'd just buy the PS4 version and upgrade. 

So either they charge PS4 owners the same for a game with less content or they strip the ps5 version of perks and features. 

Horizon came out in 2017, I don't know if specs were finalised at that time maybe 2018 and we wouldn't have a PS4 version. It's unfortunate nonetheless. I do expect a PS4 version of GT7 but I'd be surprised if we saw anything else. 

The games being different don`t mean you got content striped that would justify it being sold for less than the other. And probably you would also complain if PS4 version was 60 and PS5 version was 70 wouldn`t you? And it is very silly to ask to strip the PS5 version of features because they aren`t possible on the PS4.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

The whole "new console means the end of the old one" generation shift is over.

It doesn't make sense any more with how high development costs are and how scalable graphics engines are.

Every modern console I think will be like this, shared games with the older system for a while until 2-3 years into its lifecycle.



Soundwave said:
The whole "new console means the end of the old one" generation shift is over.

It doesn't make sense any more with how high development costs are and how scalable graphics engines are.

Every modern console I think will be like this, shared games with the older system for a while until 2-3 years into its lifecycle.

Not sure what you are talking about since we know that at least since PS1 it always have been like that. We had PS1 exclusives well into the life of PS2 and even more time for cross gen, same from PS2 to PS3 and PS3 to PS4. And if you count sport titles we even had some cases of Fifa or PES for PS2 being released even when PS4 was already out.

This is nothing new.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

"Not so long ago people were drooling over the horizon trailer now just bc there's a ps4 version announcement I only see despise for the game... How shallow a person can be.. guess it's only the next gen status that matters Let it go your ego, just assume you were admiring a cross gen title"

That seems absurd, I agree it doesn't detract from game itself, but the integrity of Sony's messaging is legit topic to address.
It is possible to still like Horizon as a game, while also confronting hypocrisy and fakeness of Sony's messaging up to now.
Certainly this is nothing strange to expect by normal dynamics of game industry, but Sony was one who posed as anti-crossgen.