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If this would be through DLSS, I'm guessing they'd be asking some devs to implement some higher quality assets in their games?
Not sure how that technique works.

Last edited by Hiku - on 09 September 2020

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Jumpin said:
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Nothing you said makes any sense.  Wii HD = failure.  Low power Wii = success.  Michael Pachter = wrong.

I think the whole point of a Wii HD is not to raise the price, but to maintain the initial Wii price and then push the original model's price down to economy model levels. It wouldn't be a hard replacement, but rather a phase in next generation console. While most first/second party software would be dual, many third parties could put their exclusive HD software on the platform: Assassin's Creed 2, Mass Effect, and so-on; and unlike the Wii U, people would actually want to play them on Wii HD.

The biggest problem with Wii U is it didn't advance on the Wii. Instead it went in a very different direction with that big fat Game Gear looking controller, and priced-up the hardware quite a bit above the Wii while only offering HD and a controller that was less compelling what came before it.

Granted, for first-party and second-party titles, I am not a fan of cutting out support of the previous-gen entirely, so the idea of keeping games like Galaxy 2 as dual platform games appealed to me... meanwhile Wii Motion+ would be the primary interface, and Sports Resort, Wii Play 2, and Wii Fit+ would all be Wii HD exclusive (Though they'd probably call it Wii+ or Wii 2). Mario Galaxy 2 would have an HD and SD setting, with Wii HD being the more desirable platform to play it on.

I think it would have potentially pushed the Wii to one or two more 20M+ years in 2012 and 2013. Add in a higher quality feeling classic controller and a wireless sub-controller for the Wiimote, and you're golden! Unlike the Wii U, people will actually want to play all of those HD games on the console. The major problem with Wii U is games came out for it, but they weren't compelling to buy. For me, I bought Mario Kart 8 on Wii U, felt bored with it after only hours... also, when people wanted to play Mario Kart, it was Mario Kart Wii or Mario Kart 7 they wanted to play (mostly, that's because when I DID play Mario Kart, those were the versions available); but Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on Switch has several hundred hours of play -- it was simply a better platform.

Anyway, if Wii HD in 2010 was Wii 2, there might have even been a Wii 3 prior to the Switch.

What you are really describing is a whole new system.  Basically you wanted the Wii U in 2010, but without the gamepad.  The gamepad was authenitcally a bad idea, but the biggest problem the Wii U had was software droughts.  Nintendo had to make software for the 3DS and at the same time were not prepared for how resource intensive HD games are.  The Wii U didn't get much third party support and there is no reason to think that your "Wii HD" would have gotten much third party support either.

Meanwhile, the Wii actually was getting a good amount of third party releases in 2010 and beyond.  After 2010 it was basically just third party games selling hardware.  These developers were happier to make Wii games, because there was also a market for these smaller budget games.  These developers didn't want to go to an HD system.  Nintendo was better off not going to HD.  They didn't do a good job making HD games on the Wii U and their Wii partners didn't follow to the system.



they will call it Switch Home as it won't be swichable like the lite but stationery. That's my prediction



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A switch with the new architecture and some extra Tensor cores in the dock.



So hypothetically if it launches March 2021, that's 4 years into Switch life, and it would be the flag ship device for two years until 2023 when Switch 2 comes?

I have mixed feelings. I don't want Switch 2 sales to be diminished because of buyer fatigue at a bunch of people only having bought a Switch Pro 2 years (or less) prior to that.



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Dulfite said:
So hypothetically if it launches March 2021, that's 4 years into Switch life, and it would be the flag ship device for two years until 2023 when Switch 2 comes?

I have mixed feelings. I don't want Switch 2 sales to be diminished because of buyer fatigue at a bunch of people only having bought a Switch Pro 2 years (or less) prior to that.

Nintendo can take notes from next gen and adjust accordingly. 



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Nintendo best be getting them tensor cores for DLSS or that ainnnnnnt happening.



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Hiku said:

If this would be through DLSS, I'm guessing they'd be asking some devs to implement some higher quality assets in their games?
Not sure how that technique works.

They'd need higher quality assets. The AI is trained using the native res images of the game and that training data is inputted into the game/driver. So the AI can use the missing information to know what to reproduce. 

Nintendo would not only have to ask devs to use 4K assets or at least make a version that is 4k ready, and have tensor cores to process that to make DLSS possible.



PS4(PS5 Soon)and PC gaming

There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

Dulfite said:
So hypothetically if it launches March 2021, that's 4 years into Switch life, and it would be the flag ship device for two years until 2023 when Switch 2 comes?

I have mixed feelings. I don't want Switch 2 sales to be diminished because of buyer fatigue at a bunch of people only having bought a Switch Pro 2 years (or less) prior to that.

Buyer fatigue didn't stop the Switch when the New 3DS came out in February 2015, just 2 years before. The type of people who wait for a hardware revision/upgrade in Year 4 onwards to jump onboard aren't the same type of people who buy the system at launch. And the people who do upgrade are the type of consumers who have no problems spending the money on new hardware in the first place. Assuming this is true, a Switch Pro will have very little effect on Switch 2 sales. Do you see PS4 Pro or Xbox One X sales diminishing PS5 or XSX sales? 

Regardless, I don't think the Switch 2 will launch until 2024. Holiday 2023 at the earliest. The 3DS got 6 years and the Switch is blowing it out of the water and Furukawa has stated that it wants to give the Switch a longer cycle than usual.

So I think the Switch 2 is still a long ways off.

Last edited by PAOerfulone - on 09 September 2020