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Steph Curry is pretty much the Aaron Rogers of the NBA they are both very overrated. Except for the fact that Curry gets way too much credit for winning four titles on loaded Warriors teams, while Aaron Rodgers doesn't get enough credit for consistently getting the Packers into the NFL playoffs with average to below average defenses. Plus, Aaron Rogers name actually shows up near the top when look up all time quarterback stats.

Last edited by Chris Hu - on 19 June 2022

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Chris Hu said:

Steph Curry is pretty much the Aaron Rogers of the NBA they are both very overrated. Except for the fact that Curry gets way too much credit for winning four titles on loaded Warriors teams, while Aaron Rogers doesn't get enough credit for consistently getting the Packers into the NFL playoffs with average to below average defenses. Plus, Aaron Rogers name actually shows up near the top when look up all time quarterback stats.

Loaded?

Let's look at this championship roster.

Steph - Drafted
Klay - Drafted
Draymond - Drafted
Looney - Drafted
Wiggins - Traded from MIN, a trade that EVERYONE was ripping the Warriors for at the time and saying it was a horrible trade for them.
Poole - Drafted
Kuminga - Drafted
Wisemen - Drafted
Payton - G-League
Iguodala - Vet Min
Bjelica - Vet Min
Lee - G-League
Moody - Drafted
Toscano Anderson - G-League
Porter - Vet Min

They drafted over HALF their roster and developed them from the ground up. If it feels like they're loaded, that's because of great coaching and player development.

Almost nobody was giving the Warriors a shot to win the title this year, even you. Weren't you saying that the Suns and Grizzlies had the edge over the Warriors in the playoffs, and WHAT DID I TELL YOU?!? The Warriors had that championship experience that sets them apart and they would win it. And LOOK WHAT HAPPENED. The Suns didn't even make it to the Warriors, they got their asses kicked in Game 7 to a team that the Warriors had little to no trouble against in 5 games. They just won the title in a playoff route where they went 16-6 against four teams they went a combined 4-10 against in the Regular Season. The NBA season is not a sprint, it's a marathon and the Warriors understand that better than any other team in the league. The only All Stars they had going into this season was Steph and Draymond. Klay was still injured and people weren't sure if he would be the same and NOBODY thought Wiggins would be what he is now. No that they won it all, here we go again: Right on que - "They're a superteam!!! They're loaded!!!" 

Seeing as how you brought up Aaron Rodgers (not Rogers), maybe you should stick to football.

Last edited by PAOerfulone - on 18 June 2022

Shaq was one dimensional... he is still top 10. Winning matters. Curry wins.



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PAOerfulone said:
Chris Hu said:

Steph Curry is pretty much the Aaron Rogers of the NBA they are both very overrated. Except for the fact that Curry gets way too much credit for winning four titles on loaded Warriors teams, while Aaron Rogers doesn't get enough credit for consistently getting the Packers into the NFL playoffs with average to below average defenses. Plus, Aaron Rogers name actually shows up near the top when look up all time quarterback stats.

Loaded?

Let's look at this championship roster.

Steph - Drafted
Klay - Drafted
Draymond - Drafted
Looney - Drafted
Wiggins - Traded from MIN, a trade that EVERYONE was ripping the Warriors for at the time and saying it was a horrible trade for them.
Poole - Drafted
Kuminga - Drafted
Wisemen - Drafted
Payton - G-League
Iguodala - Vet Min
Bjelica - Vet Min
Lee - G-League
Moody - Drafted
Toscano Anderson - G-League
Porter - Vet Min

They drafted over HALF their roster and developed them from the ground up. If it feels like they're loaded, that's because of great coaching and player development.

Almost nobody was giving the Warriors a shot to win the title this year, even you. Weren't you saying that the Suns and Grizzlies had the edge over the Warriors in the playoffs, and WHAT DID I TELL YOU?!? The Warriors had that championship experience that sets them apart and they would win it. And LOOK WHAT HAPPENED. The Suns didn't even make it to the Warriors, they got their asses kicked in Game 7 to a team that the Warriors had little to no trouble against in 5 games. They just won the title in a playoff route where they went 16-6 against four teams they went a combined 4-10 against in the Regular Season. The NBA season is not a sprint, it's a marathon and the Warriors understand that better than any other team in the league. The only All Stars they had going into this season was Steph and Draymond. Klay was still injured and people weren't sure if he would be the same and NOBODY thought Wiggins would be what he is now. No that they won it all, here we go again: Right on que - "They're a superteam!!! They're loaded!!!" 

Seeing as how you brought up Aaron Rodgers (not Rogers), maybe you should stick to football.

It doesn't matter how they, where acquired it's still a loaded team.  FYI the Celtics won 11 out of 13 NBA finals before trading for players was even a thing in the NBA.  Actually, maybe you should stick to football.  Especially if you think Curry is a top ten all-time player.

Last edited by Chris Hu - on 19 June 2022

Chrkeller said:

Shaq was one dimensional... he is still top 10. Winning matters. Curry wins.

Shaq averaged 23.7 ppg and 10.9 rpg.  He led league in scoring twice and in field goal percentage ten time how exactly is that one dimensional what are you smoking.  I'm guessing you should stick to football also.



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Chris Hu said:
PAOerfulone said:

Loaded?

Let's look at this championship roster.

Steph - Drafted
Klay - Drafted
Draymond - Drafted
Looney - Drafted
Wiggins - Traded from MIN, a trade that EVERYONE was ripping the Warriors for at the time and saying it was a horrible trade for them.
Poole - Drafted
Kuminga - Drafted
Wisemen - Drafted
Payton - G-League
Iguodala - Vet Min
Bjelica - Vet Min
Lee - G-League
Moody - Drafted
Toscano Anderson - G-League
Porter - Vet Min

They drafted over HALF their roster and developed them from the ground up. If it feels like they're loaded, that's because of great coaching and player development.

Almost nobody was giving the Warriors a shot to win the title this year, even you. Weren't you saying that the Suns and Grizzlies had the edge over the Warriors in the playoffs, and WHAT DID I TELL YOU?!? The Warriors had that championship experience that sets them apart and they would win it. And LOOK WHAT HAPPENED. The Suns didn't even make it to the Warriors, they got their asses kicked in Game 7 to a team that the Warriors had little to no trouble against in 5 games. They just won the title in a playoff route where they went 16-6 against four teams they went a combined 4-10 against in the Regular Season. The NBA season is not a sprint, it's a marathon and the Warriors understand that better than any other team in the league. The only All Stars they had going into this season was Steph and Draymond. Klay was still injured and people weren't sure if he would be the same and NOBODY thought Wiggins would be what he is now. No that they won it all, here we go again: Right on que - "They're a superteam!!! They're loaded!!!" 

Seeing as how you brought up Aaron Rodgers (not Rogers), maybe you should stick to football.

It doesn't matter how they, where acquired it's still a loaded team.  FYI the Celtics won 11 out of 13 NBA finals before trading for players was even a thing in the NBA.  Actually, maybe you should stick to football.  Especially if you think Curry is a top ten all-time player.

Since they drafted over half their roster, Wiggins made his first All Star game this year, and GPII is about to get a good payday after almost being out of the league this year, maybe the rest of the league needs to play catchup to the Warriors, especially since it's been 7 years since their first championship and they STILL haven't seemed to figure them out.

You certainly love to talk given you went radio silent when all of your predictions fell apart in the 1st round.

Shaq's game could be considered one dimensional since all he did was post up and grab rebounds similar to how all Curry does is shoot threes. So one dimensional the fact that they both are two time scoring champs and how Shaq led the league in FG% 10 times and Steph led the league in 3PT FGs 7 times and how he's the only player in NBA history to put up 50/40/90 percentages while averaging over 30 PPG AND leading the league in steals in the same season. All they seem to know how to do is put the ball in the hole. Y'know... The whole point of the game?

Never mind the fact that Shaq was a dominant low-post defender or how Curry is one of the best passers in the league and averaged 8.5 assists one year and could easily be among the league leaders in assists if he wants to, but he splits the playmaking duties with Draymond Green so that he can be used more off the ball and they could win more games because he's arguably the greatest off ball player the game has ever seen - Something that doesn't show up on a stat sheet.

Anyone with two functioning eyeballs who actually watches the games (Something I question you have actually done since all you do is read stat sheets. Why else would you have picked Phoenix as the favorites in a hypothetical WCF matchup even though GS had far more playoff experience. How'd that Phoenix pick work out by the way?) can see the impact Steph has on the game, how his presence on the court strikes fear into every defense, and how he has changed the game from one that's played under the basket to one that's played behind the 3 point line. 

Last edited by PAOerfulone - on 19 June 2022

Chris Hu said:
Chrkeller said:

Shaq was one dimensional... he is still top 10. Winning matters. Curry wins.

Shaq averaged 23.7 ppg and 10.9 rpg.  He led league in scoring twice and in field goal percentage ten time how exactly is that one dimensional what are you smoking.  I'm guessing you should stick to football also.

Shaq played exclusively in the paint.  He didn't handle the ball, shoot mid range nor hit 3 pointers.  He was a god awful foul shooter.  His field goal was high because all he did was dunk.  He was one dimensional and an all time great.  Your argument is weak at best.  Because while Shaq was one dimensional he was dominant and an all time great.  Winning matters, Curry wins.

Also there is no need to be rude.

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 19 June 2022

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Saying Steph is 1 dimensional already tells me you don't know what you're talking about. You listen to Skip Bayless too much. 

Last edited by smroadkill15 - on 20 June 2022

Draft Night!
The Spurs and Thunder go into today with the most picks at 5 each.



Chrkeller said:
Chris Hu said:

Shaq averaged 23.7 ppg and 10.9 rpg.  He led league in scoring twice and in field goal percentage ten time how exactly is that one dimensional what are you smoking.  I'm guessing you should stick to football also.

Shaq played exclusively in the paint.  He didn't handle the ball, shoot mid range nor hit 3 pointers.  He was a god awful foul shooter.  His field goal was high because all he did was dunk.  He was one dimensional and an all time great.  Your argument is weak at best.  Because while Shaq was one dimensional he was dominant and an all time great.  Winning matters, Curry wins.

Also there is no need to be rude.

All centers during Shaq's era pretty much got all their points in the paint.  Shaq also made three NBA defensive second teams.  Curry never even came close to making a first of second all defensive team.