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Conina said:
hinch said:

Reminds me of when Sony removed PS2 emulation (software) from PS3 and Linux support. Sucks when it happens.

Sadly not much you can do about it since you agreed to T&C when first booting in and updating a console.

Sony never removed PS2 emulation on PS3 fat models, they just stopped selling PS2-compatible PS3 models.

Since they never promised PS2-BC for PS3 Slims, they had no problem regarding BC.

Otherwise the shitstorm would have been much bigger than from the tiny group of Linux fans.

There was software emulation on the PS3. It came with 80GB Metal Gear Solid model - before it got removed with updates.

https://www.lifewire.com/can-your-ps3-play-ps2-games-2717135

PS3 can be been hacked with homebrew installed to re enable it (not going to link that). It wasn't well known enough due to it being a limited run console. A non hardware based PS3 is capable of PS2 emulation.



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I was expecting a valid reason to sue Microsoft, but really the snap feature. I would have felt bad if you might have lost access to your digital purchase or experience console failures. The only winner in all this is your lawyer. Microsoft probably has it in the fine prints that they can swap features and remove features at any time. I think the snap feature was taxing on the system, I'm glad they removed it.



yvanjean said:
I was expecting a valid reason to sue Microsoft, but really the snap feature. I would have felt bad if you might have lost access to your digital purchase or experience console failures. The only winner in all this is your lawyer. Microsoft probably has it in the fine prints that they can swap features and remove features at any time. I think  snap feature was taxing on the system, I'm glad they removed it.

1. It is in the fine print. Either you agree with Microsoft or you can just stop using their device. Same as Sony's. But that was ruled unlawful. 

2. Lawyer would only get paid if they won the lawsuit. 

3. It's okay if you didn't like the feature. I liked it.



hinch said:
Conina said:

Sony never removed PS2 emulation on PS3 fat models, they just stopped selling PS2-compatible PS3 models.

Since they never promised PS2-BC for PS3 Slims, they had no problem regarding BC.

Otherwise the shitstorm would have been much bigger than from the tiny group of Linux fans.

There was software emulation on the PS3. It came with 80GB Metal Gear Solid model - before it got removed with updates.

https://www.lifewire.com/can-your-ps3-play-ps2-games-2717135

PS3 can be been hacked with homebrew installed to re enable it (not going to link that). It wasn't well known enough due to it being a limited run console. A non hardware based PS3 is capable of PS2 emulation.

Kinda shocking. I have that specific model PS3 and it played PS2 games until it broke in 2013, as far as I know. I still have it in the box in a closet!



d21lewis said:
hinch said:

There was software emulation on the PS3. It came with 80GB Metal Gear Solid model - before it got removed with updates.

https://www.lifewire.com/can-your-ps3-play-ps2-games-2717135

PS3 can be been hacked with homebrew installed to re enable it (not going to link that). It wasn't well known enough due to it being a limited run console. A non hardware based PS3 is capable of PS2 emulation.

Kinda shocking. I have that specific model PS3 and it played PS2 games until it broke in 2013, as far as I know. I still have it in the box in a closet!

Yeah I also remember reading that it there was PS2 emulator on the PS3 store briefly before it was pulled.

And damn, that's a fine collectors item! Matte and gun metal. Best combo.



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didn't even twitter @xboxP3 LMAO



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kirby007 said:
didn't even twitter @xboxP3 LMAO

Do it for me! I'm out if the Twitter game forever (again!).



d21lewis said:
kirby007 said:
didn't even twitter @xboxP3 LMAO

Do it for me! I'm out if the Twitter game forever (again!).

fuck it, done deal... you fucking change your mind more than a woman on her period



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JRPGfan said:
Is it just normal to have that many TV and consoles in a home in the US?
As a european I basically think its "atypical" to have more than 2 TV's in a house.
Sure a laptop/pc for each, but that many TVs? That many Consoles? thats alot of love, you showing Xbox.

Well what would you do with old TVs?
And I'm not talking about CRTs.

I bought a 50" 3D Plasma in 2011 that still serves as the living room TV. My wife uses it alot.

I bought a 47" Plasma as a secondary TV in 2013 when I moved to Berlin. Placed it into the bedroom, so I could play games in the living room while she could watch TV.

Bought a 75" 4k TV in 2018 for my gaming room and since my wife now uses the 50" I can use the 47" TV as a secondary screen right next to my 75". What else should I do with it? It was a €400 entry level TV that was 5 years old when I bought the most recent TV, therefore without warranty. Doubt it was worth more than €50 so no reason to sell it, really.

Maybe I'll upgrade again in 5 years and if the 2011 Plasma survives until then, I will own 4 TVs in my home.

My mother recently bought a house all for herself. She has one big TV in the living room, one CRT in her bedroom and one in the guest room. She even used to have a tiny one (about 8") in her kitchen.

It's really not that uncommon.



d21lewis said:
yvanjean said:
I was expecting a valid reason to sue Microsoft, but really the snap feature. I would have felt bad if you might have lost access to your digital purchase or experience console failures. The only winner in all this is your lawyer. Microsoft probably has it in the fine prints that they can swap features and remove features at any time. I think snap feature was taxing on the system, I'm glad they removed it.

1. It is in the fine print. Either you agree with Microsoft or you can just stop using their device. Same as Sony's. But that was ruled unlawful. 

2. Lawyer would only get paid if they won the lawsuit. 

3. It's okay if you didn't like the feature. I liked it.

I never said I didn't like the feature, I used it at first to snap Netflix and achievement. But, it was never really working all that well. I think the trade-off for performance is worth it. 

The snap feature should only be an obligation for the OG Xbox One. I don't think it should be mandated for all the post-Kinect Xbox one consoles release afterward. You commented on the HDMI-in, that's still a feature I use to this day. I got my switch dock connected to the HDMI-in. 

As an Xbox fan, I don't know what your end goal is with this lawsuit. There were zero outcries when the snap feature was removed and like I said only the OG Xbox owners are really entitled to the snap feature.