I think some are putting to much stock on sony getting greedy and overconfident and thinking they will have a crazzy price disparity. Or MS willing to eat a giant loss per box. Thouse kind of things just dont happen anymore. I expect both to eat a small loss. Like if it cost $520 to make, ship and all that they would round down to $500. Or the nearest $50.

But there are rumors going around that one is cheaper than the other. If MS console is the expensive one to make I do believe they will eat the loss to match the ps5, but I really dont think they will go beyond. If its sony thats the most expensive, I see them taking a small loss and they will most likely anounce first so then MS will have a chance to undercut them a bit.But I dont see a $100 cut like some are sugesting. I could even see the same price but bundle in gamepass for a few months.

discless consoles can be quite a success among parents. Parents will be able to pick up a cheaper new console for their little children that mostly will play the same multiplayer games over and over.

except for the parents that also play videogames. In many households today, a console is a family toy that the parent only give access to their little kids

Stock and fanbase loyalty are great arguments.

We just need to keep in mind that certain fans can convince themselves to hold their buying if they truly believe it's not worth buying it day one. I have a friend, huge xbox fan, that said that will not buy day one. He sees no point at the moment. A bad release strategy can make even loyal fans hold it, particularly in the case of microsoft with this "no generations any more" argument.

I think halo is one example. Halo fans were over the moon until they saw the graphics and delay. I wouldn't be surprised if microsoft had already lost significant loyal sales because of that.

Wii U is another remote example. They couldn't convince even most of its own incredibly loyal Japanese fanbase to jump into it. (of course, Wii U is kinda too gross as an example, but it counts)

Sony is not immune to that either. A bad price can change fan's minds a lot.

Just fans being fans. 

MS is a business. And Xbox as a division cannot be losing money forever. But if you listen to fans, you would be forgiven to think that MS is running charity ith the Xbox.

Gamepass, will be losing them money. Until they at least have up to like 30M subscribers to the service. And I am not talking about the people that pay for like two months, play all they can or want to play then unsub for the next 3-6 months, then when next there are a number f games they want to play, sub again for another two to three months. Which is how a lot of people will use the service. I am talking about full-time subscribers. The service, and services like that, are typically loss leading. Heavily. For it to grow, it has to get a lot more than older titles and first-party titles, it has to get the big third-party titles to. And that will cost money. Lots of it.

MS can't afford to lose too much money on hardware either. They have two SKUs coming out and are primed to be losing on both a $499 XSX and a $299 XSS. But they have a platform that doesn't even encourage people to actually pay for games. So where are the profits going to be coming from??

Sony is in with regards to all of the above, at least in a better position. But even they can't afford to lose too much on hardware. But we can at least see why they are doing certain things. A digital PS5 means that hey stand to make more from anyone that owns that SKU, and actual game sales will remain their bread and butter. Granted, if MS has a digital SKU this applies to them too, but its not the same when MS is running service that basically is saying, "hey, you don't have to buy games". They are also making the DS mandatory for PS5 games, which means they at least stand to make more from peripheral sales than MS would.

Either way, neither company can afford to be throwing money away.

Well don't get me wrong, PS4 being 50 cheaper or even same price it will win no question asked. But I was replying to someone suggesting Sony charge 100 more for a weaker system. That would likely put us on a PS3situation of near tie.

I sometimes forget what kind of site im on :p

I also want to add that I really dont see the xss being a thing like most are saying. It just dosent make sense to realease a console that entry level laptops are getting near in power and by next year when ddr5 arrives, apu's on laptops are gona match it or surpass it. And lets be real here, everyone has a laptop. Gamers, non gamers, buisness people, students. I just dont see anybody picking a xss for like $300 when they probably will just need to upgrade their work/school/everday laptop for entry price of about $500-600 next year and be set. Not to mentioon those who can aford it and have better right now.

There where rumors going around that the series x is a MS surface laptop and I 100% belive it. If thats the case then the home console market is gona lean so heavy towards the ps5 that we could be looking at another ps2 here. 

Yeah we can't rule out the possibility. The Series S/X will do well in the US at launch and may keep up with PS5. I just have my doubts elsewhere.

I don't see it happening PS3 situation ever happening again. Reason being that Microsoft had a whole year ahead with the 360. It was a cheaper console and had a much bigger launch lineup within its first year. On top of that they money-hatted a lot of third parties to keep momentum going. Lets just say, hypothetically, if there is $100 advantage for the Series X, verses the PS5 (base model)and $200 different for the Series S > PS5 DE. I can't see PS gamers moving to Xbox, and most of the early adopters would be more knowledgeable of the launch lineup.

Yes even with the 100 advantage the other advantages X360 had over PS3 won't exist. But I doubt Sony would make such a mistake of overpricing. If they were to do that they would have already released the price, instead they probably want to undercut Series X and with discless accept up to 100USD in loss to not leave much room for Series S.

Yeah its just a cat and mouse game at this point. One needs to go first of we're gonna end up not knowing prices until November lol

At $399 and $499 its very much likely.