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Will PS5 sell a lot more than the rival this Christmas?

Yes 93 73.23%
 
Not sure yet 16 12.60%
 
No 18 14.17%
 
Total:127

Switch is a non-relevant factor in this discussion, plz stop it guys ...

For the discussion at hand, the XSeX was already going to get crushed on the international market since it simply and realistically doesn't have the appeal of the PlayStation brand in those places except for America where the real "battle" is.

Sure, without any big launch title to justify the purchase, XSeX will suffer but not probably not at first since enthusiasts will make sure to get their hands on it. This will create the illusion of a big upcoming success yet it will falter in the following months fast if nothing substantial happens or is released.

Btw, both consoles have yet to get their price tags ...



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Nautilus said:
Signalstar said:

What does Switch have to do with the launch season this year. Where in the OP is Switch mentioned?

Simple: Nintendo is also a hardware manufacturer, and thus a direct competitor to Sony and MS. The same it would have been stupid to not factor the PS4 and X One when the Switch launched, it would be stupid not to include the Switch into the equation, because it WILL be stealing sales away from MS and Sony.

It's like asking which kind of chocolate is better, but leaving milk chocolate out of the question for reasons.

But the Switch is not launching this year. The OP and the poll only concern the two major platforms launching this 2020 holiday season. It asks if PS5 will outsell its rival (singular). People always like to bring up Switch in these cases just to brag. The Switch is irrelevant to the question which will sell better at launch, PS5 or Xbox.



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Signalstar said:
Nautilus said:

Simple: Nintendo is also a hardware manufacturer, and thus a direct competitor to Sony and MS. The same it would have been stupid to not factor the PS4 and X One when the Switch launched, it would be stupid not to include the Switch into the equation, because it WILL be stealing sales away from MS and Sony.

It's like asking which kind of chocolate is better, but leaving milk chocolate out of the question for reasons.

But the Switch is not launching this year. The OP and the poll only concern the two major platforms launching this 2020 holiday season. It asks if PS5 will outsell its rival (singular). People always like to bring up Switch in these cases just to brag. The Switch is irrelevant to the question which will sell better at launch, PS5 or Xbox.

Playing Devil's advocate, the "Rival" could mean either Nintendo or MS. If it were up to me, Sony actual rival is Nintendo, but that's more of an observation from me than anything else.

But on a serious note: If the question was actually " What system is going to be more attractive/have better games/be better: Sony or MS" then yeah, I would agree with you that Nintendo has nothing to do with said discussion, simply because it's more about the quality of the hardware/games, and the Switch selling like hotcakes right now will (probably) not influence that.

But that's not the case. The discussion is about sales, and it has nothing to do with bragging about Nintendo's success(That didn't stop people " bringing up" the PS4 and XOne sales up when the Switch launched though...), it's simply that Sony and MS dosen't exist in a vacuum. Any hardware sales discussion needs to involve Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft, otherwise it is meaningless. You are having an discussing with half the information pertaining to it.It would be the same situation with my chocolate example.

People like to ignore Nintendo as if it existed in another dimension when they are winning. It's stupid. And I'll always treat it as stupid. If it is a discussion that I feel like there is someone/something missing, I'll bring it up.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

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Nautilus said:
Signalstar said:

But the Switch is not launching this year. The OP and the poll only concern the two major platforms launching this 2020 holiday season. It asks if PS5 will outsell its rival (singular). People always like to bring up Switch in these cases just to brag. The Switch is irrelevant to the question which will sell better at launch, PS5 or Xbox.

Playing Devil's advocate, the "Rival" could mean either Nintendo or MS. If it were up to me, Sony actual rival is Nintendo, but that's more of an observation from me than anything else.

But on a serious note: If the question was actually " What system is going to be more attractive/have better games/be better: Sony or MS" then yeah, I would agree with you that Nintendo has nothing to do with said discussion, simply because it's more about the quality of the hardware/games, and the Switch selling like hotcakes right now will (probably) not influence that.

But that's not the case. The discussion is about sales, and it has nothing to do with bragging about Nintendo's success(That didn't stop people " bringing up" the PS4 and XOne sales up when the Switch launched though...), it's simply that Sony and MS dosen't exist in a vacuum. Any hardware sales discussion needs to involve Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft, otherwise it is meaningless. You are having an discussing with half the information pertaining to it.It would be the same situation with my chocolate example.

People like to ignore Nintendo as if it existed in another dimension when they are winning. It's stupid. And I'll always treat it as stupid. If it is a discussion that I feel like there is someone/something missing, I'll bring it up.

Then by all means create a thread asking which will sell more this holiday season: Switch, PS5, or Xbox. As it stands Nintendo and the Switch have nothing to do with this thread or topic.



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Signalstar said:
Nautilus said:

Playing Devil's advocate, the "Rival" could mean either Nintendo or MS. If it were up to me, Sony actual rival is Nintendo, but that's more of an observation from me than anything else.

But on a serious note: If the question was actually " What system is going to be more attractive/have better games/be better: Sony or MS" then yeah, I would agree with you that Nintendo has nothing to do with said discussion, simply because it's more about the quality of the hardware/games, and the Switch selling like hotcakes right now will (probably) not influence that.

But that's not the case. The discussion is about sales, and it has nothing to do with bragging about Nintendo's success(That didn't stop people " bringing up" the PS4 and XOne sales up when the Switch launched though...), it's simply that Sony and MS dosen't exist in a vacuum. Any hardware sales discussion needs to involve Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft, otherwise it is meaningless. You are having an discussing with half the information pertaining to it.It would be the same situation with my chocolate example.

People like to ignore Nintendo as if it existed in another dimension when they are winning. It's stupid. And I'll always treat it as stupid. If it is a discussion that I feel like there is someone/something missing, I'll bring it up.

Then by all means create a thread asking which will sell more this holiday season: Switch, PS5, or Xbox. As it stands Nintendo and the Switch have nothing to do with this thread or topic.

It has everything to do with the topic.

Maybe I will closer to the holidays, but that still won't stop me from bringing my own opinion and the facts wherever I think it's relevant.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus said:
Signalstar said:

What does Switch have to do with the launch season this year. Where in the OP is Switch mentioned?

Simple: Nintendo is also a hardware manufacturer, and thus a direct competitor to Sony and MS. The same it would have been stupid to not factor the PS4 and X One when the Switch launched, it would be stupid not to include the Switch into the equation, because it WILL be stealing sales away from MS and Sony.

It's like asking which kind of chocolate is better, but leaving milk chocolate out of the question for reasons.

how is switch going to steal sales away from Sony and MS if they never steal sales of PS4/Xbone. 



kazuyamishima said:
Nautilus said:

Simple: Nintendo is also a hardware manufacturer, and thus a direct competitor to Sony and MS. The same it would have been stupid to not factor the PS4 and X One when the Switch launched, it would be stupid not to include the Switch into the equation, because it WILL be stealing sales away from MS and Sony.

It's like asking which kind of chocolate is better, but leaving milk chocolate out of the question for reasons.

how is switch going to steal sales away from Sony and MS if they never steal sales of PS4/Xbone. 

They don't?How so, if the Switch is beating both of them right now?

And how can you prove they are not? By the basic principle of competition, just being a product that is similar to the one the competition is selling, you are battling for the consumer money. So by that logic, if someone spends 300 dollars to buy a Switch, it stands to reason that it's 300 not spend buying a PS4/One.Just because the PS4 and Switch sold/are selling well, dosen't mean they couldn't have sold better if that competito didn't exist.

It's... common logic...



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Kyuu said:
To put it bluntly, XS at its current state is almost a nonfactor unless Series S undercuts PS5DE by over $100 and Series X undercuts PS5 by $50, then it might manage to beat it globally in the US with the help of supply constraints.

I don't think Sony has revealed their entire launch/launch-window lineup. They still have some well kept secrets according to trusted sources. Not like they need those but it's something to keep in mind.

I miss these days, thank you XD



Nautilus said:
Signalstar said:

Then by all means create a thread asking which will sell more this holiday season: Switch, PS5, or Xbox. As it stands Nintendo and the Switch have nothing to do with this thread or topic.

It has everything to do with the topic.

Maybe I will closer to the holidays, but that still won't stop me from bringing my own opinion and the facts wherever I think it's relevant.

So according to you it is impossible to create a thread comparing 2 discreet, clearly defined items? I can never create a thread asking which will sell better Game A or Game B. What you are doing is the equivalent of coming in and saying it doesn't matter because GTA V will outsell them both. It has nothing to do with the topic and is obvious.



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