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Do you support changing the names that can be considered racist?

Yes 7 21.88%
 
No 25 78.13%
 
Total:32

What is going on with this thread lol. People getting into the weirdest arguments and some guy basically insulting all Americans?

What on Earth have I walked into lol.

Calm down people...



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NightlyPoe said:
DonFerrari said:

So please explain to me as if i was a 2nd grader why the over 200 countries that use metric people don't have a need to use decimeter or decameter or hectare that do exist even though you talk about this rigidity of the metric system, and then foot that is similar to decimeter on greatness order is so useful that makes the whole imperial system better and more practical.

You said explicitily that the system is more practical and better, you didn't say you prefer, so yes that is putting it objectively instead of preference. Because if it was about preference no one would be discussing with you.

What racism is on saying American are resistent and do make boogeymen?

Obviously, the don't find it useful, so they're largely discarded.

and then foot that is similar to decimeter on greatness order is so useful that makes the whole imperial system better and more practical.

But they're not similar.  Obviously, the decimeter has been deemed too small a unit to be a sufficient intermediary for common use.  Otherwise, it would be used more often.

You said explicitily that the system is more practical and better, you didn't say you prefer, so yes that is putting it objectively instead of preference.

Stating an opinion doesn't mean that a person thinks that opinion is objective.

Because if it was about preference no one would be discussing with you.

Do you internet?

What racism is on saying American are resistent and do make boogeymen?

What's racist about making a simplistic, broad, negative over-generalization about a group of people that one clearly disfavors?

Pretty much everything.

So let me understand, decimeter is to small to be a good intermediary measurement that people prefer to use something 10 times smaller, but foot is so usefull (even if 12 times bigger than inch, and never mind the calculations that need both being awkward). I guess you didn`t really explained to my 2nd grader understanding why one is so good and useful, only in USA, while the nearest is basically ignored because no one really have a problem measuring from 1cm to 100cm before even thinking well this is to big. And even after 1m it is quite common to still use cm before 2m to avoid decimals.

And sorry but you have been acting as if you were stating facts, and people rebated talking facts using conversion, common use, etc. You were even brought by Rol that the only reason you say it is superior is because you are used to it, that would be a very big opening for you to just agree and say you prefer what you are used to. But nope you kept pushing as if you were discussing facts.

But if you are truly only saying why you prefer it, by all means I have no issue with that, you have your reasons for liking it.

Racism have to do with races last I checked, and being American isn`t a race is ist? You could have said he is generalizing, offensive, biggoted, prejudiced (not even going to discuss if he was or not), but not racist.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

NightlyPoe said:
DonFerrari said:

So let me understand, decimeter is to small to be a good intermediary measurement that people prefer to use something 10 times smaller, but foot is so usefull (even if 12 times bigger than inch

They're not nearly the same size.  A foot's a solid 3x as large.  While not a definitive obstacle (the difference between a centimeter and an inch is about 2.5x after all), for whatever reason, the difference in scale seems to have made it so that the decimeter isn't used.  That's my guess.  Does it matter?  Whatever the reason, it's obviously a little-used unit.

The reason is it isn`t needed, just as foot really isn`t as well.

I'm not even sure what you're trying to prove.  Why do little-used units keep getting brought up?

To show you that you using it doesn`t show it is better or more practical to the rest of the world. No one outside USA really have a need to use intermediates but you try to tout is as some very important thing.

I guess you didn`t really explained to my 2nd grader understanding why one is so good and useful, only in USA

"It's probably too small," is too difficult for a 2nd grader to understand?  I suspect if there were a unit that was a 1/4 of a meter (still smaller than a foot, but more or less analogous), it'd be very popular.

It wouldn`t, that is what you miss to get. In Brazil for example we don`t even use fractions if we can avoid So we don`t have quarter to something, or past a quarter, etc. At most we have half, like half hour or half dozen. We rather use smaller units than odd conversions that really need some math to do.

It's what I mean by the metric system being too rigid.  It doesn't allow for units that fit more naturally with the users.

Our units fit perfectly fine with us, and still here we have no issue in culinary people using spoons as measurement but that isn`t really precise or strictly followed. You can use decimals, fractions, intermediate units if you want, but people would look odd at you and ask why are you doing it.

And sorry but you have been acting as if you were stating facts, and people rebated talking facts using conversion, common use, etc.

I've never said my opinion was absolute.  Frankly, this is a silly line of discussion.  You're literally complaining that I believe what I'm saying.

No, I was discussing you not saying it was your opinion but discussing as if you were bringing facts.

You were even brought by Rol that the only reason you say it is superior is because you are used to it, that would be a very big opening for you to just agree and say you prefer what you are used to.

Now you're requiring that I admit to someone else's baseless assumption?

Why can't I just make the same demand of you.  Admit that the only reason you think metric is superior is because you're used to it.  If you don't, using your logic, you're committing the same sin I am and believe your opinion is an objective fact.

So he saying it was your preference and that comes from use is a baseless assumption? So it really seems you were trying to say you were using facts.

Factually metric system is superior, on subjective and preference I simply don`t care. And since you confessed you are just talking about your preference I`m out.

Racism have to do with races last I checked, and being American isn`t a race is ist? You could have said he is generalizing, offensive, biggoted, prejudiced (not even going to discuss if he was or not), but not racist.

Fine, whatever.

Grouping people into a negative stereotype based on their nationality, race, sex, etc. = Really, really, really bad in modern society.

It is cool that you play this victim card and then on the post after attack Rol and rest of forum goers and other countries in same generic way.

RolStoppable said:
NightlyPoe said:
RolStoppable said:

Americans have the habit of dreaming up boogeymen, hence why they resist common sense. 

And now we've graduated to straight-up racism.  I'll add that to your support of terrorism.

I don't mind. My support of terrorism was another one of those instances where you were standing on your own and nobody sympathized with you.

As for being used to a system, suppose you have yet to choose a system. One of the two systems has a logical and consistent conversion between its different units of measurements while the other system does not have this. Objectively, the more logical and convenient system is the superior one. Hence why so many countries have switched to the metric system whereas no country has ever switched into the other direction.

The whole discussion can be narrowed down to one single thing: Your continued denial that having logical and consistent conversion rates is more useful than not having them.

Mind you that isn`t only converstion inside that unit alone (like going mm to km not taking over 2 seconds to change) but also easily correlates lenght, area, volume that all use same model unit, but go also for pressure, power, etc. Even on thermodinamic, the beauty of 1 calorie being needed to heat 1 gram of water for 1 degree. How many units of heat energy is need to raise 1 fahrenheit degree on 1 coffee spoon of water?

NightlyPoe said:
RolStoppable said:

I don't mind. My support of terrorism was another one of those instances where you were standing on your own and nobody sympathized with you.

And this is why I have no problem standing alone.  People such as you who think that violence is acceptable for someone thinking wrong.  A simple bully that plays to the crowd.

That you would proudly say as much without fear of either social or moderator consequence says much about both you and forum at large.

As for being used to a system, suppose you have yet to choose a system. One of the two systems has a logical and consistent conversion between its different units of measurements while the other system does not have this. Objectively, the more logical and convenient system is the superior one.

If that one factor was the only consideration, sure.  But it is not.

Hence why so many countries have switched to the metric system whereas no country has ever switched into the other direction.

Politicians liking simplicity does not make for a superior method.

The whole discussion can be narrowed down to one single thing: Your continued denial that having logical and consistent conversion rates is more useful than not having them.

No, the whole discussion narrows down to this not being the only factor.  Unit flexibility and conforming to the real world is also valid consideration.

In any case, I think you're done.

So you think we are being violent with you? Don`t play that. When you want to be the challenging voice expect to be challenged my most and also to have strong arguments to defend what you propose.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

And the descent into madness continues for this thread, I see!



Dulfite said:
And the descent into madness continues for this thread, I see!

Funny thing is, I probably would've expect some disagreements with this thread, but not on the topic that is actually inciting a lot of discussion. As a european I think metric system is a-ok, but whatever if someone else wanna use something else. But this discussion is hilarious. I feel very much entertained.



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