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Shaunodon on 16 July 2020
JWeinCom said:
Shaunodon said:

Seems more than likely Series S will be all digital to keep cost down. And if the theory about it being cube shaped is true, not having a disk drive would be  necessary for the design.

I don't think it would've been a great purchase anyway. Games have already been struggling on base Xbone for a while, and it'll only get worse from here on.

I'm not a huge graphics guy and will be probably be mostly playing on a 720p TV. Unless the framerate is really unbearably (like sub 30 FPS), I'd probably be ok.  

Yikes, where did you find that dinosaur lol?

But yeah, dipping framerates have already been an issue for Xbone, so I can imagine it getting much worse along with blurry pictures for cross-gen titles. I expect Series S will only be targeting 1080p to begin with, so that would still be suited to your situation.



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DonFerrari on 16 July 2020
Signalstar said:
DonFerrari said:
That is sad but perfectly understandable. Strange that they didn't keep the lowest cost SAD but opted for the one with disc.

That'd be ridiculous with all the Xbox One game discs on store shelves all around the world. Giving late adopters no way to access all those games would be horrible business. Especially since games will continue to release for some time.

Yes I know the justification for keeping the one with drive, but it is odd that they didn't opt to leave the cheapest one as well.



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JWeinCom on 16 July 2020
Shaunodon said:
JWeinCom said:

I'm not a huge graphics guy and will be probably be mostly playing on a 720p TV. Unless the framerate is really unbearably (like sub 30 FPS), I'd probably be ok.  

Yikes, where did you find that dinosaur lol?

But yeah, dipping framerates have already been an issue for Xbone, so I can imagine it getting much worse along with blurry pictures for cross-gen titles. I expect Series S will only be targeting 1080p to begin with, so that would still be suited to your situation.

I'm transitioning between two career paths (was a teacher shifting to law), so right now, money is kind of tight (hence the 720p TV I'm using). I'm willing to take a fair hit in graphics quality to save a couple of hundred bucks, particularly since my gaming time is somewhat limited and 80% on the Switch/retro consoles. I'd opt for a Series S if the price difference was 100 bucks, but if it was bigger, I'd probably go with a One S.



starcraft on 16 July 2020
hinch said:

Xbox One X only lasted two years and a half. That's only a few more months than the Dreamcast, damn.

No?

On the contrary they've committed to supporting it with games in a totally unprecedented way going forward?



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hinch on 16 July 2020
starcraft said:
hinch said:

Xbox One X only lasted two years and a half. That's only a few more months than the Dreamcast, damn.

No?

On the contrary they've committed to supporting it with games in a totally unprecedented way going forward?

Its been discontinued officially. Hence consoles lifespan, I never talked about support ;o

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starcraft on 16 July 2020
hinch said:
starcraft said:

No?

On the contrary they've committed to supporting it with games in a totally unprecedented way going forward?

Its been discontinued officially. Hence consoles lifespan, I never talked about support ;o

You said it only lasted 2.5 years.

I just checked and I can confirm, my X1X turned on and booted games - we're at 2.51 years and counting.



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Metallox on 16 July 2020
starcraft said:
hinch said:

Its been discontinued officially. Hence consoles lifespan, I never talked about support ;o

You said it only lasted 2.5 years.

I just checked and I can confirm, my X1X turned on and booted games - we're at 2.51 years and counting.

The sale of Xbox One X consoles only lasted 2.5 years, that's what he meant. 



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curl-6 on 16 July 2020
shikamaru317 said:
curl-6 said:

I wonder how much longer they'll produce the One S; there's little point taking up valuable production capacity with an ageing and undesirable system once it's successor is out.

My money is on XB1 S only being manufactured through the rest of the year. They'll make a few million more of them and have them going for $150 this Holiday, and then that is that, once that stock is all sold through at $150, that'll be the end of XB1. If Series S comes in at $250-300 as rumored, there isn't much reason to keep XB1 S around for long. 

Yeah that would make sense. No reason to keep it around much longer than that when they'd rather consumers get a Series X/S.



EricHiggin on 17 July 2020

Yup.
Don't think this guarantee's Lockhart just yet but it certainly makes room for it if it's coming. Though if XB1X sales were slowing enough, maybe MS just assumes these buyers will likely get an XBSX instead. Depending on the price they may be able to make a strong value argument over the XB1X.



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EnricoPallazzo on 17 July 2020
shikamaru317 said:
SKMBlake said:
I don't really see the point of stopping the production of the most interesting console of all 3 versions and keeping a very weak one instead of stopping the production of the S, lowering the price of the X to S levels and announce the Lockhart as a mid-ranger

They would need to drop XB1 X from $300 to $200 or $150 for it to make sense to buy one instead of a Lockhart/Series S for $250-300, since Lockhart has a slightly better better GPU than XB1 X, a much better CPU, and an SSD. MS would lose big money trying to sell XB1 X at $150-200, the chipset is larger and much more expensive to produce than the XB1 S chipset, and also larger and more expensive to produce than the Series S chipset most likely. It is far more affordable for them to sell XB1 S at $150, as it was already selling for $200 last Holiday, so they will only need to drop it by $50 to sell it at $150 this Holiday.

Interesting so Series S will be only marginally better than One X? Thats weird...

Unless they make it very clear Series S is not aimed for 4k and even kind of make it impossible to play 4k.

If it is just an 1080p machine then it will be much more powerful than One X because if I'm not wrong the bottleneck on One X was the processor.