padib said:
Jaicee said:
The game's detractors certainly have managed to find a way of turning themselves into the real victims here.
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They are. Between people being banned from forums for voicing a negative opinion about the game, to journalists like Jason Schreier being shamed on twitter, to users on vgchartz having to endure the typical witch hunt, the only conclusion is that people are not allowed to say things against the game.
It's high time people just stop all this on both sides. People should never make death threats to anyone, and others should let people express themselves and stop vilifying other users. It's very bad in general.
This is, quite honestly, the only game where I have seen people trying so hard to silence others for their opinion on the game. I personally just stopped posting about it even on vgchartz because it was becoming ugly.
As much as I and others want to admit that some haters are being completely out of line, you should be doing the same instead of continuing to pretend like everything is okay on the side of those who will just defend the game to no end and rebuke people who comment negatively about it or its creators who are behaving badly on social media.
Neil Drunkman in this issue is no angel, and he shouldn't be doing what he is doing, and users on the other end should not be behaving the way they are, sending personal attacks and being very personal about the game. Both sides are wrong and if you don't acknowledge it then why should the other side acknowledge the bad behaviours of certain haters?
Let's just stop all this and meet in the middle.
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I have fucking threatened NO ONE's life and have nothing to apologize to you for in that regard! Why do you feel like I owe you a concession or something here? Because I appreciated the game? Seriously? Like I owe you an apology for liking The Last of Us Part II?
You're just blanketly associating me and everyone who says anything good about TLOU2 with the board policies of the ResetEra forums and every word that Neil Druckmann has ever uttered before and so on and so on. Has it ever occurred to you that there might be a difference? That I might be my own person? Can you not see that you're treating me the same way you CLAIM I'm treating you: in this cartoonish, pigeonholing way?
Yeah, maybe I get touchy about the way many detractors discuss the game because this one, for a great many personal reasons, means more to me than any other AAA release in like decades. Sorry if it feels like I'm going overboard hence, but I'm not trying to bar you from finding fault with it or whatever. I feel like not remarking further on this game myself would be best because clearly I'm not supposed to like this game.
If people here cannot condemn the threat of physical violence against this game's developers without qualification, without becoming defensive and demanding an apology from everyone who appreciates the game they have made, I don't know what there is left to talk about.
Last edited by Jaicee - on 09 July 2020