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Thoughts on 70$ games next gen?

I'm happy with it, more money=better value 6 5.77%
 
I'm ok with it 26 25.00%
 
Don't like it, but will tolerate it 30 28.85%
 
Completely against it, won't tolerate it 42 40.38%
 
Total:104

Putting a price on entertainment can be a bit tricky. How much entertainment is gained in any given amount of time and how much is it worth is probably based and valued by the individual receiving it. There are base amounts of dollars for some entertainments that we can go by.

I've seen new blu-ray movies going for $30 plus and 4k in the same range or higher. That will buy you about 3 hours worth of entertainment and you can watch it again for another 3 hours. You can also lend it out and someone else can also get that same 3 hours worth of entertainment. Video games are usually longer and also offer replay value.

A half and half usually goes for $200. That is half oral and half bumping uglies. Depending on staying power that could hit an hour, but if you haven't experienced this professionally before, you aren't going to last even half that long. It's great when done by someone who is trained to do it. Is it worth it? There is no replay.

Single day at Disney World cost to ride the rides for a single individual is a little over $100 and most of that time will be in a waiting line (loading screen). Also no replay value.

Games made today (not all games but plenty) are created with replay and continued play in mind. You can throw away entire months, years, and half decades away, all for a low cost. Based on previous generation game play times versus current generation gameplay times, there is an obvious increase. I lost over 26 months in ESO, and only paid 20 dollars. I've bought Diablo III for PS3, PS4, Xbox One, and Switch, I've spent more for that game than I have any other, yet Borderlands and Skyrim comes close. Of all of those I have yet to platinum any of them, much less put a dent in them. Yet the dollars I've pumped in have not came close to the amount of entertainment that they have delivered.

I usually know what I'm buying or gonna get out of a purchase before I throw out the Benjamins. If you told me I could purchase Diablo 4 today for $150 with all the content that will ever be put into it right now I probably would buy it. Same goes for any other game, but I like to know up front what I'm going to get.

A 20 hour game with no replay value I probably wouldn't even purchase to begin with, but if I did I wouldn't pay over $60 on release, in fact I would probably wait for a special.

Another game I paid less than $30 for was Minecraft. It was worth every penny and then some. I can't put a price on it. I will probably go back to it again in the future. I don't know the amount of hours of pleasure that game has provided me nor the amount of my life that I owe to it. It helped me quit smoking cigarettes in 2014. This is a game that I would gladly have paid over a $1000 for.

I will not be shocked by any game price in the future but I would like it if publishers were up front about what you are going to get. I don't put prices on joy or ecstasy and feel like if you can provide it, I can pay for it.

Life is short enough as it is and it has never been more true now with this weird ass 2020 year. Don't worry about price if you can avoid it, just enjoy it while you are here to do so.





...to avoid getting banned for inactivity, I may have to resort to comments that are of a lower overall quality and or beneath my moral standards.

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Vodacixi said:
How can they have the balls to increase the prices of games when the current pricing is already unfair? Look at the PS Store prices. Digital games should be way cheaper for obvious reasons, yet they are exactly the same. They don't want to lower the prices in order to make even more money out of them. And now they want to increase the price even more on both physical and digital? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I find incredibly funny how people are trying to defend this bullshit with inflation, increased developement costs etc... when the truth is that gaming companies never play fair with customers and they always try to milk us in every way they can invent and imagine. This right here is nothing new: it's just them seeing if they can tighten the rope a little more. But I think this is the drop that fills the glass.

You say that the prices are unfair, but the reality is they're not. People are totally ok with paying those quantities, myself included. We should reconsider that, tbh, since it's getting out of hand. 76 dollars (tax included) plus any later DLC or expansion is a lot, didn't notice it until now. 



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

V-r0cK said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Again.  Maybe you are right.  Maybe none of this is Sony's fault.  The PS3 lost Sony tons of money, but at least it wasn't their fault, right?  The PS5 can lose tons of money too, but hey, at least it won't be their fault.  Game prices go up and it's never Sony's fault, but they still bear all of the consequences.  

I'm not sure why you think it matters so much whose fault it is.  If their system fails again like the PS3, then blaming other companies won't magically make them succeed.

lol you're trolling me right?? 

I think you desperately need a lesson in how business and economics work.

But ya im done talking to you.  Like I said before, nothing you say makes any sense with no proof that game price increase is Sony's fault.  

You gotta be pretty 'special' to think Sony has control over the game prices for the entire video game industry *facepalm

Actually you replied to me and then changed the subject.  I'm just trying to get back to what I was originally talking about.

Last edited by The_Liquid_Laser - on 06 July 2020

I would happily pay more for a quality game, if the game wasn't already raising the price in other ways: DLC, season passes, microtransactions. Games are fro a long time much more expensive than 70$. And it is highly ironic that we discuss this price hike for a game, that actually costs already much more and will continue to do so in the future. Look, you already can preorder NBA2K21 Legend Edition for 100$ and it is shock-full of microtransactions. So 60$ is already only a base price barely anyone is paying.

See Jim Sterling about this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHSso2vufPM



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As someone who rarely buys new games now because of the price, I just see that personal trend continuing. Games are already $69.99/$79.99 here in Canada and this just means we jump to $79.99/89.99. After tax, we're looking at over $100 per title. The list of games that are worth that, in my eyes, is very small.

Example from Amazon:



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No problem for me, I wait for the games to be worth 50€



hush404 said:

As someone who rarely buys new games now because of the price, I just see that personal trend continuing. Games are already $69.99/$79.99 here in Canada and this just means we jump to $79.99/89.99. After tax, we're looking at over $100 per title. The list of games that are worth that, in my eyes, is very small.

Example from Amazon:

Yep, the upcoming Paper Mario is also listed at 79.99.
I hope it will 'only' go up to 89.99 next gen, however $70 translates to CAD 95 nowadays :/

I've been buying far fewer new games this gen as well. Start of this gen games were still CAD 54.99 or 59.99

Digital gets more enticing since you don't get the tax on top (for now) (Except in Quebec)
With 13% sales tax on physical games the difference keeps increasing. Next gen a physical game will be over $12 more.

https://www.cpacanada.ca/en/news/canada/2018-09-13-tax-on-digital-services
Under the current tax rules—which allow foreign companies, like those mentioned, to avoid paying sales tax because they don’t have a physical presence in Canada—the onus is on the consumer to pay. That means we should keep track of what we spend, reach out to the Canadian Revenue Agency (CRA), and pay the tax we owe.

Sure, I'll get right on that. 



All the companies known for lootboxes will surely try to push this as the shadow of lootbox regulations looms over their heads and they need to keep making more profit to keep shareholders happy.



Video games have costed roughly the same since like the 90s, so really it is not that bad that they went up slightly with inflation. I don't like it but it is an unavoidable reality. 60$ in the 90s is worth more than 70$ in 2020

I will also say that I have already seen some 70€ games here in Europe several years ago. They were not common and if you looked for other retailers you could usually find them at the more usual 60€, but they existed

Of course, here is where I also mention that the 60/70€ price is including taxes, which I don't think is the case with US pricings? (then again 1€ is like 1.1 USD so it balances out I suppose)



hush404 said:

As someone who rarely buys new games now because of the price, I just see that personal trend continuing. Games are already $69.99/$79.99 here in Canada and this just means we jump to $79.99/89.99. After tax, we're looking at over $100 per title. The list of games that are worth that, in my eyes, is very small.

Example from Amazon: