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Hiku said:

I can't say I care what opinion she has. But then again I wasn't a huge fan of her books, and they didn't influence my growing up. So it's probably different for a lot of other people.

But I do think it's at least an interesting dynamic when the entire main cast of Harry Potter speak out in disagreement with her.

I'm sure some people in the Harry Potter community appreciated that.

I would say Daniel Radcliff is threating the fanbase as snowflake. If a comment the author of something make you hate something he made when you previously loved and that makes you suffer, you really need clinical help imho. People in general are imbecile and no one will know your circumstances as you do, so their opinion on you doesn't matter at all.



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Hiku said:

I can't say I care what opinion she has. But then again I wasn't a huge fan of her books, and they didn't influence my growing up. So it's probably different for a lot of other people.

But I do think it's at least an interesting dynamic when the entire main cast of Harry Potter speak out in disagreement with her.

I'm sure some people in the Harry Potter community appreciated that.

People living in a bubble speaking as people in a bubble,it is expected.

Daniel Radcliffe his response i do not even count as a personal response,it is just him distancing himself for potential harm his connection to JK Rowling can bring to his financial state.

Well yeah none of them are personal but his is the most dressed up.



DonFerrari said:

I would say Daniel Radcliff is threating the fanbase as snowflake. If a comment the author of something make you hate something he made when you previously loved and that makes you suffer, you really need clinical help imho. People in general are imbecile and no one will know your circumstances as you do, so their opinion on you doesn't matter at all.

Well if a reader feels that they understand something the author is trying to convey, and the world they fall in love with is the embodiment of that, then to later find out that you may have misunderstood a lot of it, that this world you love and influenced your growing up is actually quite different than the one you imagined, then I can see why that can make people sad.



She doesn't hate trans people or are against their lifestyle. She just has a different opinion than the mainstream so they'll try to cancel her.



Hiku said:
DonFerrari said:

I would say Daniel Radcliff is threating the fanbase as snowflake. If a comment the author of something make you hate something he made when you previously loved and that makes you suffer, you really need clinical help imho. People in general are imbecile and no one will know your circumstances as you do, so their opinion on you doesn't matter at all.

Well if a reader feels that they understand something the author is trying to convey, and the world they fall in love with is the embodiment of that, then to later find out that you may have misunderstood a lot of it, that this world you love and influenced your growing up is actually quite different than the one you imagined, then I can see why that can make people sad.

I would argue against it. In my opinion stories were always out of the control of the author once released. If you and the author disagree on what can be seen in the stories, then the author hasn't the higher authority anymore. The author can make opinions clear from the outright, but probably many intentions are more hidden and everyone is free to interpret them. To bring it a bit away from Harry Potter, I would bring up Shakespeare. A modern reader of Shakespeare (or visitor to a play) for sure interprets things differently from what Shakespeare thought about it. That doesn't mean the modern reader is wrong. It just means there is no 'right' interpretation of a workand more importantly nobody owns the right interpretation.

So if you see Harry Potter books in a way and feel now Rownling maybe sees things differently, than your interpretation is still right - for you.



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DonFerrari said:
Hiku said:

I can't say I care what opinion she has. But then again I wasn't a huge fan of her books, and they didn't influence my growing up. So it's probably different for a lot of other people.

But I do think it's at least an interesting dynamic when the entire main cast of Harry Potter speak out in disagreement with her.

I'm sure some people in the Harry Potter community appreciated that.

I would say Daniel Radcliff is threating the fanbase as snowflake. If a comment the author of something make you hate something he made when you previously loved and that makes you suffer, you really need clinical help imho. People in general are imbecile and no one will know your circumstances as you do, so their opinion on you doesn't matter at all.

Dude... look at how much people on this site get upset about things like people disagreeing with them about which video game machine they like best, and how defensive and hostile they can become towards people who like a different video game machine the best.  Or how people literally sometimes stab each other because someone dislikes their favorite sports teams.

People care very deeply when someone attacks something that is part of their identity, even a very trivial part. It's not hard to understand why people may get more upset about someone attacking (in their view at least) something that is a core part of their identity.



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JWeinCom said:

Ugh.  I had a whole response to this and my computer crapped out.

To sum it up, JK Rowling is presenting herself as someone who is researched and unbiased.  Yet, she's doing things like citing studies with obvious fundamental flaws in their methodology (the study she cites was conducted by surveying parents on websites with an explicit position against transitioning).  She then characterizes the backlash to this study as "a concerted campaign to discredit both her and her work" without addressing the very valid critique of the work. Now she is promoting the position that peer pressure can cause children to transition.

Essentially Rowling already had her opinion, and sought out data to cherry pick to support it.  Whether her initial position was actually correct, I don't know.  I'm not an expert on gender identity or gender dysphoria which is why I simply shut the fuck up about it beyond my personal opinion (that if someone wants to be identified a certain way I'm happy to do so which I think is simply not being an asshole).  Likewise, (while she shouldn't be threatened), JK Rowling is not an expert, and should shut the fuck about it as well.  And while she certainly has the right to express her opinion, people equally have the right to tell her to shut the fuck up.

While I mostly agree with your post, one thing I want to add: nobody  should shut up with their opinion. Everyone should be open to arguments to the contrary, but don't talking about your opinions doesn't make them go away. So everyone should always feel free to offer their own opinions, but should be prepared to get counter-arguments.

But shutting up only means some people dominate the public discourse while others still have differing opinions - only shutting up. This allows to produce societal divide. Also, simply speaking, if people don't offer their opinion that the moon is made of cheese you never get the idea that you should disprove that notion.



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Hiku said:
DonFerrari said:

I would say Daniel Radcliff is threating the fanbase as snowflake. If a comment the author of something make you hate something he made when you previously loved and that makes you suffer, you really need clinical help imho. People in general are imbecile and no one will know your circumstances as you do, so their opinion on you doesn't matter at all.

Well if a reader feels that they understand something the author is trying to convey, and the world they fall in love with is the embodiment of that, then to later find out that you may have misunderstood a lot of it, that this world you love and influenced your growing up is actually quite different than the one you imagined, then I can see why that can make people sad.

I can certainly understand being displeased by what an author says, but that doesn't really change the story. Be it people that became pissed when she revealed that Dumbledore was gay (certainly there is plenty of hints in the book), or people that get sad that she isn't an advocate for trans people that doesn't change the book.

Actually the interpretation of the book will change each time you read because you have changed as well. But there is a reason to not take opinion of others and even more of celebrities in account, because the only opinion that matters is yourself and at most the ones close that love you.

JWeinCom said:
DonFerrari said:

I would say Daniel Radcliff is threating the fanbase as snowflake. If a comment the author of something make you hate something he made when you previously loved and that makes you suffer, you really need clinical help imho. People in general are imbecile and no one will know your circumstances as you do, so their opinion on you doesn't matter at all.

Dude... look at how much people on this site get upset about things like people disagreeing with them about which video game machine they like best, and how defensive and hostile they can become towards people who like a different video game machine the best.  Or how people literally sometimes stab each other because someone dislikes their favorite sports teams.

People care very deeply when someone attacks something that is part of their identity, even a very trivial part. It's not hard to understand why people may get more upset about someone attacking (in their view at least) something that is a core part of their identity.

I understand it, and agree with you. And would you deny that people that act to this extreme doesn't need professional help to deal with their issues and improve in life?



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I assume this is an issue of society trying to make absolutely everything normal and acceptable. I saw Hiku's post with the series of comments from Harry Potter actors and actresses, and what stood out is the statement that transgender women are women.

Simply ask yourself if you would draw a line between dating women and transgender women; if you are honest about it, the chance is higher than 99% that you will draw a line. At least I hope I am correct in assuming that 'transgender woman' means that a penis is still attached to such a person.

But in any case, today's outrage culture is about shaming common sense, so it's very, very, very easy to offend people on social media platforms. The world has way too many people who believe that they are doing society a good service by fighting for the presumed interests of minorities.



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