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Spike0503 said:
Isn't police brutality as a whole a larger issue? Specially with the whole "blue wall" thing where the people in the police protect each other from accountability. I remember reading a story years ago where a policewoman in the US knocked on a door and a kid with a wiimote opened it; she thought the wiimote was a gun therefore she shot him and killed him. He was white. I believe she didn't go to jail and kept her job as far as I'm aware of.

I don't mean to disregard the racism issue, it's just my observations as someone who isn't from the US. Everyone in a community suffers if the gov. people with the guns aren't held accountable for their actions.

For sure. Police brutality is a universal issue, but it is one which does a disproportionate amount of damage to poor and minority communities. And not just police brutality, but injustices throughout the entire justice system. The system needs foundational change and has needed change for generations. What we are seeing is not solely the result of any specific injustice, but a result of the failure of the system to change in a way which promotes justice for all.

While people can stand around and say "this isn't the way, lets come together and fix this", this isn't a new issue. We have failed to come together and fix this. We are now seeing the consequences of that failure.



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mZuzek said:
DonFerrari said:
Actually the world have never been better (well except for the virus outbreak killing a little more people than what would have without it). Every decade or so we improve living conditions, life expectancy, etc.

It sure felt a lot better and safer and nicer some good 10 years ago...

Perhaps for you, but just look for Index worldwide and you'll see average income improved, life expectancy and several other metrics. But if you don't like 10 years use 50 or any other number. Matter of fact, saying things were never this bad is completely wrong.

Locally and some things got worse? Yes. Like in Brazil 50 years ago violence was almost inexistent, 3 years ago there were 65000 killed yearly on violent crime, last year the number was like 40000. But if you look for other diseases and the average life expectancy it did improve. Economy because of recent crysis have been at same level or worse than 10 years ago, but again less people are starving. Call me optmistic if you want but the reason why we can focus on "smaller" problems is because we have solved most of the bigger problems in most places.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

mZuzek said:
DonFerrari said:

Perhaps for you, but just look for Index worldwide and you'll see average income improved, life expectancy and several other metrics. But if you don't like 10 years use 50 or any other number. Matter of fact, saying things were never this bad is completely wrong.

I never said that, though?

I said they're as bad as they've been for a long time, probably my lifetime. That being 25 years. Of course it's not the case for everyone, no global crisis or peaceful period is gonna affect everyone the same way. But from my point of view, things sure have always looked more peaceful than they do now - though nothing's looked peaceful at all in the last 5 years or so.

You are quite young and probably only conscient of several topics for like 5 years, so everything looks worse now. And matter of fact most people will think things only get worse, that is because the more time they live the more bad stuff they see compared to their innocent and thrilling youth days. Why do you think most old folks are very nostalgic people?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

it goes beyond racism. There is an issue within the police force , alot of inadequate cops, who not only have been responsible for deaths of blacks, but alot of whites. Deaths that didn't involve racism, but just sheer stupidity and lack of any human compassion that they are dealing with fellow humans, who may have metal conditions. Yet only blacks stand up for what's wrong and make it a big deal, the white americans who happen to get hold of footage of white men being killed by injsutice, tend to move on pretty quick. Either way, the policing system needs an overhaul, the officers that go through training need better psych evaluations and and overhaul on restraint and , topics about race, the value of human life and so on



When the peaceful protests weren't being heard, this is what happens. 
Fuck racism, and fuck the police. 



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Moved to Politics Discussion.



One of my biggest pet peeves is people acting like the world is doomed and has never been worse when statistics show that its actually the opposite.

Too many people cling to hyperbole and fear mongering and it is incredibly grating. That isn't to say that there aren't huge problems facing us today or that we won't hit rough patches (2020 is definitely a rough patch). The George Floyd killing was a huge wake up call and really shows that something needs to be done to fix the police system in America. But overall things are still on a positive trajectory which has been the trend since the 1400s.



Torillian said:

Saying "all lives matter" as a response to "black lives matter" is not done in good faith. It's done to diminish the concerns of black people who face disproportionate police brutality. Well meaning centrists who take the movement's title statement at face value is why it has been so successful. 

Honestly, it's strategically pretty brilliant while disgusting in its intent because the centrist response writes itself. "Well why don't all lives matter?"

Why is this so hard to understand for some people...



Hopefully this whole situation will make people realize that a strong welfare state and helping the weakest segments of the population is essential if we want to avoid social disorder when the situation gets dire.

...

...who am I kidding.



Well, it didn't take long in this thread before I saw the idiotic "All Lives Matter". Anything that empowers black people is always met with something to put it down, it's sad.