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Is PC ruining gaming?

Yes 19 31.67%
 
No, you're just being silly! Ah 41 68.33%
 
Total:60

No, PC culture isn't ruining gaming.  Just...not even close.

The real culprits are lootboxes, timesavers, roadmaps, anthologies of DLC, basic features held ransom behind paywalls.

"PC culture", be it real or imagined by yourself, isn't responsible for the likes of Battlefront 2, Fallout 76 or Metal Gear Survive.

(it's the 'triple A' standard-stock business model)



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SuaveSocialist said:

No, PC culture isn't ruining gaming.  Just...not even close.

The real culprits are lootboxes, timesavers, roadmaps, anthologies of DLC, basic features held ransom behind paywalls.

"PC culture", be it real or imagined by yourself, isn't responsible for the likes of Battlefront 2, Fallout 76 or Metal Gear Survive.

(it's the 'triple A' standard-stock business model)

What you said has merit, much more merit. Doesn’t mean the other isn’t a problem at all. There are degrees and ratios, it’s not one problem and others simply don’t exist. To tell one group that their opinion doesn’t matter isn’t productive to having a civil discussion. 



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John2290 said:
vivster said:

The problem is most humans are assholes, so we do need rules to keep things running smoothly. Some are called laws and others societal standards. Give people absolute freedom and see them completely abuse it and use it to hurt others. The ironic thing right now is that PC culture is used by assholes to hurt others. It's gonna be interesting to see how the next few decades will deal with that.

You shouldn't be hurt. You should grow up and take it on the chin, it's only words. We learn as childern to obercome these words by reflecting them. We shouldn't be sheltering our adult selves like we would shelter a child from a nieghbourhood bully. It is a weakening of ourselves and a dilution of the human experience to laugh and joke at each other and call eqch other out on our bullshit and flaws. I get that scaling local relationships to a global community is difficult but going the PC route is not the right approach, it snowballs into a lack of self expression entirely and a suppression of free thought. 

Oh, btw. Have you seen any of the regular outrage news while pandemic has hit us? No, because real life caught up and the people who bitch and moan know full well they are attention seeking toddlers and they need to shut the fuck up when shit gets real. 

The non-PC society is very well preserved. It's just slightly more restrictive. We joke about things we weren't allowed to 10 years ago and in a decade we will joke about this PC nonsense. Yep, it sucks that I cannot openly state how much I reject transgenderism without people trying to ruin my life for it, but it's fine. I have plenty of outlets and if you're together with the right people you can joke about anything.

I fully expect a counter wave to happen within my lifetime. The current freedom and inclusiveness can go both ways. Hardcore SJWs and feminazis are a tiny minority and as soon as the general is bored with it their ideologies will be dropped like nothing. In the meantime it's probably best to not kill yourself over a few words you're not allowed to say in public settings.

Also, you really need to look up the term "confirmation bias", because you're constantly falling into it.

Last edited by vivster - on 29 March 2020

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sales2099 said:

Doesn’t mean the other isn’t a problem at all. 

The poll doesn't ask whether PC culture "is a problem", but whether it is "ruining gaming".

Even if it is a problem, it is not one that is ruining gaming.  The 'triple A' business model has staked its claim on that.



I can't think of a single instance that political correctness "ruined" a game for me, but I'm also not focused on things like political correctness when I play a video game, haha.



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Those who constantly whinge about Political Correctness and their supporters are equally as bad. Let's be realistic here.

Vote with your wallet instead, if a games political messaging is something that turns you off, don't buy that game, it's capitalism at work.



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SuaveSocialist said:
sales2099 said:

Doesn’t mean the other isn’t a problem at all. 

The poll doesn't ask whether PC culture "is a problem", but whether it is "ruining gaming".

Even if it is a problem, it is not one that is ruining gaming.  The 'triple A' business model has staked its claim on that.

It’s all subjective. Arguably having heavy handed political messages in someone’s favourite franchise would “ruin” the experience for them. By contrast they can avoid the micros and enjoy the game for what it is if they aren’t tempted 



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Pemalite said:
Those who constantly whinge about Political Correctness and their supporters are equally as bad. Let's be realistic here.

Vote with your wallet instead, if a games political messaging is something that turns you off, don't buy that game, it's capitalism at work.

 But what if the game in question is from your favourite franchise since you were a kid? It’s not so easy to just drop the franchise you’ve loved for years. It’s not so black and white 

These things tend to not be a deal breaker. But it can still take away from the games story appeal. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

I can't recall a single game that I've played being worse because of political correctness so I guess my answer is yes, I'm OK with it.



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sales2099 said:
SuaveSocialist said:

The poll doesn't ask whether PC culture "is a problem", but whether it is "ruining gaming".

Even if it is a problem, it is not one that is ruining gaming.  The 'triple A' business model has staked its claim on that.

It’s all subjective. 

How you feel about PC Culture is subjective, but the effects of the triple-A business model on the development process is objective.

PC Culture may subjectively affect specific games, but the triple-A business model objectively affects gaming as an industry and as an artistic medium.

Since the poll question asked whether PC culture is ruining gaming, the answer is objectively 'no, it is not.  The triple-A business model is ruining gaming'.