Bofferbrauer2 said:
Rereading my post, I see I missed the rather critical mention to do so in safe blue/red states, not swing states or states that have the potential to become one, like Texas this year around. @bolded: Trump wants to kill off Nato, which would give Putin huge influence over Europe. He's trying to buy up all the vaccines and medicines for CoViD-19 and doesn't care if any other country would not get any at all due to this. He killed the Paris treaty and violated countless other international treaties.He's supporting and flaunting over several dictators around the world instead of keeping them in check. Trust me when I say that even outside of the US, no one is safe from this madman POTUS. But what do you expect to change under Biden if he doesn't feel any challenge from the left? He must feel that the support from the left is far from granted, and that he has to work towards their demands if he wants them to support him in 4 years.He shouldn't take leftists for granted, and this is the best way to make him know that he has to work for them. Or would you rather want that the left wing splits off, starts a new party and thus dooms the democratic party in 4 years and maybe even future elections? Biden needs to get pulled to the left to keep the democratic party united instead of the party continuing to creep to the right. |
I see. So what you're saying is that the unity of Democrats can best be maintained by voting AGAINST their nominee this fall? Why do I not buy that argument?
Look, in order to push a President Biden in any direction, there first has to be a President Biden. He's gotta be elected president first! One step at a time. If people wanted a different alternative to Trump, they should've chosen one in the primaries. That was the time. This is not.
I'm not just against third party votes because they're ineffective, I'm against them because their candidates are fake ones. Seriously. Think back to 2016. Did it ever strike you as odd that Green Party nominee Jill Stein focused on attacking Hillary Clinton and not the rival candidate with whom she theoretically had less in common? Like that she would frequently use expressions negatively comparing Clinton to Trump like "His words and her actions" and such, almost as though she were actually trying to persuade people to vote for Trump rather than her? Did you ever notice likewise how she barely ever mentioned any of the left wing policy proposals she was supposedly running on? Did it ever similarly strike you as odd that Gary Johnson and his running mate conversely tended to really only criticize Trump and barely stopped short of endorsing Clinton in fact? Those things were reflections of who was paying their bills! Jill Stein could barely criticize Trump because the Republican Party was bankrolling her campaign. Likewise Gary Johnson could barely criticize Clinton because the Democrats were funding his campaign. You can't risk your sources of revenue! You see what I mean now? Third party candidates in this country are frauds! They're bought and paid for by the major parties. They don't actually believe in any of the stuff they claim to be running on. They're not running to win.
I mean seriously, do you really think for one second that the Republican Party always tries to get Green candidates on the ballot everywhere and pump up the visibility of their candidates just out of the goodness of their hearts? Like the Republican Party does that because they support the Green New Deal and tuition-free college access and Medicare for all and a 70+ percent top marginal income tax rate and a 50+ percent reduction in spending on the military and police and so on and so on? You really think that's why they always support the Green candidates? Or could it be their aim to split the left vote and carve out more victories for themselves as a result? In exchange for the material support of the Republican Party, the Greens implicitly agree, in turn, not to attack their Republican "rivals". It's a game. The whole thing is a sham. Third parties in this country are a sham.
Last edited by Jaicee - on 05 July 2020