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Bofferbrauer2 said:

I'll just gonna leave this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MykMQfmLIro

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!



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Bofferbrauer2 said:

I'll just gonna leave this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MykMQfmLIro

That would be a dream!  Unfortunately... won’t happen while the people elected by the current system are in power... which means it will never happen... power doesn’t like to change how it got power...



Howie Hawkins has become the presumptive nominee or the green party, having gotten more than the 176 delegates needed to win the primaries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Green_Party_presidential_primaries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF3hB34I1oY

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RolStoppable said:
Jaicee said:

The United Kingdom: the world's default nation of origin.

You know, I've heard of the sun never setting on the British Empire before, but this is absolutely ridiculous.

VGC is a UK website. That's pretty much it.

Well pretty obvious the guy was a bot or just some fool.  Notice how he didn't even respond and who the fuck says real Americans.  Either an idiot or bot.  I stand by my accusations.



I don't know why, but Green Presidential candidate Howie Hawkins seems to use British newspaper for his campaigning - or US newspapers are not interested into third candidates. Either way, here's 2 articles about him in the independent:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/green-party-howie-hawkins-2020-us-election-trump-biden-a9591151.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/howie-hawkins-green-party-socialist-2020-us-election-trump-biden-candidates-a9591586.html

I pretty much think he nailed it in those articles. A pity so few Americans will get to see them...



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Bofferbrauer2 said:

I don't know why, but Green Presidential candidate Howie Hawkins seems to use British newspaper for his campaigning - or US newspapers are not interested into third candidates. Either way, here's 2 articles about him in the independent:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/green-party-howie-hawkins-2020-us-election-trump-biden-a9591151.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/howie-hawkins-green-party-socialist-2020-us-election-trump-biden-candidates-a9591586.html

I pretty much think he nailed it in those articles. A pity so few Americans will get to see them...

There just isn't any point in voting for an independent right now. Some speculate that its the reason Trump was able to eke out a narrow victory over Hillary in 2016, thanks to people supporting candidates like Jill Stein and Gary Johnson, and as a result Hillary losing by small margins in key states. 

The main goal is to remove Trump from office and everyone needs to unit behind Biden for that to happen.



newwil7l said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

I don't know why, but Green Presidential candidate Howie Hawkins seems to use British newspaper for his campaigning - or US newspapers are not interested into third candidates. Either way, here's 2 articles about him in the independent:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/green-party-howie-hawkins-2020-us-election-trump-biden-a9591151.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/howie-hawkins-green-party-socialist-2020-us-election-trump-biden-candidates-a9591586.html

I pretty much think he nailed it in those articles. A pity so few Americans will get to see them...

There just isn't any point in voting for an independent right now. Some speculate that its the reason Trump was able to eke out a narrow victory over Hillary in 2016, thanks to people supporting candidates like Jill Stein and Gary Johnson, and as a result Hillary losing by small margins in key states. 

The main goal is to remove Trump from office and everyone needs to unit behind Biden for that to happen.

I have to disagree here.

What will push the democrats to any change if everybody votes for them? The Establishment Democrats of today are policy- and philosophy-wise identical to the Republicans of the 90's, both parties moved more and more to the right. Now with Trump slumping deeply is exactly the right time to vote 3rd party unless you want to risk the party getting split in half and ensure Republicans win every election after this one because the democratic vote is split between 2 parties?

Biden is leading so far and Trump can't muster any counters, so much so that Republicans start jumping ship. Unless there's several major changes in Trumps favor he's done for.



@SpokenTruth : In case you missed it (I posted it before already), Howie Hawkins is the presumptive nominee of the Green Party. He has also already chosen his running mate, activist and labor organizer Angela Nicole Walker

https://howiehawkins.us/angela-walker-for-vice-president/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Nicole_Walker



Bofferbrauer2 said:
newwil7l said:

There just isn't any point in voting for an independent right now. Some speculate that its the reason Trump was able to eke out a narrow victory over Hillary in 2016, thanks to people supporting candidates like Jill Stein and Gary Johnson, and as a result Hillary losing by small margins in key states. 

The main goal is to remove Trump from office and everyone needs to unit behind Biden for that to happen.

I have to disagree here.

What will push the democrats to any change if everybody votes for them? The Establishment Democrats of today are policy- and philosophy-wise identical to the Republicans of the 90's, both parties moved more and more to the right. Now with Trump slumping deeply is exactly the right time to vote 3rd party unless you want to risk the party getting split in half and ensure Republicans win every election after this one because the democratic vote is split between 2 parties?

Biden is leading so far and Trump can't muster any counters, so much so that Republicans start jumping ship. Unless there's several major changes in Trumps favor he's done for.

I actually vote third parties about as much as I vote for the two main parties.  I voted third party in the last election.  I am not gonna do that this time though.  Not a huge Biden fan, but trump has been such a nightmare as a president I want to do all I can to not have him for another four years.  I don’t think the country would make it.  I’ll go back to pushing for more third party options after there is at least a somewhat competent person in the White House.