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You guys are crazy if you believe its over. Did any of you watch that speech by Sidney Powell yesterday outlining the President legal defense and the huge amount of evidence of voter fraud that has happen in this election. You have to watch it, she names just about every GOP boggieman you can think of. There is Venezuela, Cuba and China having a hand in the situation. Clinton and George Soros was thrown in for good luck. Then they tried to tie in Smartmatic technology in which only one county in LA actually use their software but we are to believe they somehow own Dominion Voting System and have backdoors, algorithm that allow them to switch votes on the voting machines all while not leaving a trace (convient when you cannot bring evidence to court). Servers running in multiple foreign countries and executives running away before the might of the US coming to find them. It was glorious and the GOP are eating it up every word. Oh this elections very far from over and the popcorn fueling drama is only going to get better.

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/melanie-arter/sidney-powell-stunning-heartbreaking-infuriating-and-most



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Machiavellian said:

You guys are crazy if you believe its over. Did any of you watch that speech by Sidney Powell yesterday outlining the President legal defense and the huge amount of evidence of voter fraud that has happen in this election. You have to watch it, she names just about every GOP boggieman you can think of. There is Venezuela, Cuba and China having a hand in the situation. Clinton and George Soros was thrown in for good luck. Then they tried to tie in Smartmatic technology in which only one county in LA actually use their software but we are to believe they somehow own Dominion Voting System and have backdoors, algorithm that allow them to switch votes on the voting machines all while not leaving a trace (convient when you cannot bring evidence to court). Servers running in multiple foreign countries and executives running away before the might of the US coming to find them. It was glorious and the GOP are eating it up every word. Oh this elections very far from over and the popcorn fueling drama is only going to get better.

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/melanie-arter/sidney-powell-stunning-heartbreaking-infuriating-and-most

Nothing but chain rattling. They love to speak of evidence when there is none, which is why their accusations never come through in court. Remember all the evidence about Obama's birth certificate? Or the email scandal? Or Benghazi? Republicans will rattle their chains long after things have already been proven false and then they just jump on the next thing without anything actually happening. They will always have something to complain about but in the real world it's actually already over.

I mean what is actually not over? Their complaints? Well they will never stop. Thing is their complains won't stop anyone from forcibly removing Trump's ass out of the White house. And the great thing? Once they're out of there the Senate or Congress can't protect him and his ilk anymore. The only line of defense are Republican judges then.



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Machiavellian said:

You guys are crazy if you believe its over. Did any of you watch that speech by Sidney Powell yesterday outlining the President legal defense and the huge amount of evidence of voter fraud that has happen in this election. You have to watch it, she names just about every GOP boggieman you can think of. There is Venezuela, Cuba and China having a hand in the situation. Clinton and George Soros was thrown in for good luck. Then they tried to tie in Smartmatic technology in which only one county in LA actually use their software but we are to believe they somehow own Dominion Voting System and have backdoors, algorithm that allow them to switch votes on the voting machines all while not leaving a trace (convient when you cannot bring evidence to court). Servers running in multiple foreign countries and executives running away before the might of the US coming to find them. It was glorious and the GOP are eating it up every word. Oh this elections very far from over and the popcorn fueling drama is only going to get better.

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/melanie-arter/sidney-powell-stunning-heartbreaking-infuriating-and-most

Even Tucker Carlson isn't buying her story, it's over without evidence, it's just been a fantasy 

 



Rab said:
Machiavellian said:

You guys are crazy if you believe its over. Did any of you watch that speech by Sidney Powell yesterday outlining the President legal defense and the huge amount of evidence of voter fraud that has happen in this election. You have to watch it, she names just about every GOP boggieman you can think of. There is Venezuela, Cuba and China having a hand in the situation. Clinton and George Soros was thrown in for good luck. Then they tried to tie in Smartmatic technology in which only one county in LA actually use their software but we are to believe they somehow own Dominion Voting System and have backdoors, algorithm that allow them to switch votes on the voting machines all while not leaving a trace (convient when you cannot bring evidence to court). Servers running in multiple foreign countries and executives running away before the might of the US coming to find them. It was glorious and the GOP are eating it up every word. Oh this elections very far from over and the popcorn fueling drama is only going to get better.

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/melanie-arter/sidney-powell-stunning-heartbreaking-infuriating-and-most

Even Tucker Carlson isn't buying her story, it's over without evidence, it's just been a fantasy 

 

I was going to talk about this video as well because it just keeps getting better and better.  You guys believe its over, no its not but not in the same way you might think.  The key to this whole thing and especially all that dog meat Sidney threw out their is how much they are taking just about every conspiracy theory they can string together and throwing it at the wall.  The impact is that this has not been about the election for a long time within the Trump administration and court battles but something along the lines of probably a TV show, or his Broadcasting Network.  He is trying to ride this train all the way so he can continue to proclaim he never lost, fraud and all that jazz.  With 73 million people voting for him, that is quite a large platform he and his team is trying to hold on to and stay relevant.  Its actually not a bad ideal if you really think about it on a business level.  If he can instill that doubt in a large segment of people, those are revenue streams he can take advantage of.  I am sure probably 6 months definitely less than a year, he will have his Broadcast network ready to sing those conspiracy theories and attempt to be the new Fox.  

Thinking about this more, it might be the reason Fox and the President is not long for their marriage.  Cannot have competing networks for the same viewership.



Machiavellian said:
Rab said:
Machiavellian said:

You guys are crazy if you believe its over. Did any of you watch that speech by Sidney Powell yesterday outlining the President legal defense and the huge amount of evidence of voter fraud that has happen in this election. You have to watch it, she names just about every GOP boggieman you can think of. There is Venezuela, Cuba and China having a hand in the situation. Clinton and George Soros was thrown in for good luck. Then they tried to tie in Smartmatic technology in which only one county in LA actually use their software but we are to believe they somehow own Dominion Voting System and have backdoors, algorithm that allow them to switch votes on the voting machines all while not leaving a trace (convient when you cannot bring evidence to court). Servers running in multiple foreign countries and executives running away before the might of the US coming to find them. It was glorious and the GOP are eating it up every word. Oh this elections very far from over and the popcorn fueling drama is only going to get better.

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/melanie-arter/sidney-powell-stunning-heartbreaking-infuriating-and-most

Even Tucker Carlson isn't buying her story, it's over without evidence, it's just been a fantasy 

 

I was going to talk about this video as well because it just keeps getting better and better.  You guys believe its over, no its not but not in the same way you might think.  The key to this whole thing and especially all that dog meat Sidney threw out their is how much they are taking just about every conspiracy theory they can string together and throwing it at the wall.  The impact is that this has not been about the election for a long time within the Trump administration and court battles but something along the lines of probably a TV show, or his Broadcasting Network.  He is trying to ride this train all the way so he can continue to proclaim he never lost, fraud and all that jazz.  With 73 million people voting for him, that is quite a large platform he and his team is trying to hold on to and stay relevant.  Its actually not a bad ideal if you really think about it on a business level.  If he can instill that doubt in a large segment of people, those are revenue streams he can take advantage of.  I am sure probably 6 months definitely less than a year, he will have his Broadcast network ready to sing those conspiracy theories and attempt to be the new Fox.  

Thinking about this more, it might be the reason Fox and the President is not long for their marriage.  Cannot have competing networks for the same viewership.

Even if Trump pardons himself he will be fighting litigation aimed at himself for years to come.  He will spend time at Rykers Island...and meet a very friendly general population. 



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rapsuperstar31 said:
Machiavellian said:
Rab said:
Machiavellian said:

You guys are crazy if you believe its over. Did any of you watch that speech by Sidney Powell yesterday outlining the President legal defense and the huge amount of evidence of voter fraud that has happen in this election. You have to watch it, she names just about every GOP boggieman you can think of. There is Venezuela, Cuba and China having a hand in the situation. Clinton and George Soros was thrown in for good luck. Then they tried to tie in Smartmatic technology in which only one county in LA actually use their software but we are to believe they somehow own Dominion Voting System and have backdoors, algorithm that allow them to switch votes on the voting machines all while not leaving a trace (convient when you cannot bring evidence to court). Servers running in multiple foreign countries and executives running away before the might of the US coming to find them. It was glorious and the GOP are eating it up every word. Oh this elections very far from over and the popcorn fueling drama is only going to get better.

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/melanie-arter/sidney-powell-stunning-heartbreaking-infuriating-and-most

Even Tucker Carlson isn't buying her story, it's over without evidence, it's just been a fantasy 

 

I was going to talk about this video as well because it just keeps getting better and better.  You guys believe its over, no its not but not in the same way you might think.  The key to this whole thing and especially all that dog meat Sidney threw out their is how much they are taking just about every conspiracy theory they can string together and throwing it at the wall.  The impact is that this has not been about the election for a long time within the Trump administration and court battles but something along the lines of probably a TV show, or his Broadcasting Network.  He is trying to ride this train all the way so he can continue to proclaim he never lost, fraud and all that jazz.  With 73 million people voting for him, that is quite a large platform he and his team is trying to hold on to and stay relevant.  Its actually not a bad ideal if you really think about it on a business level.  If he can instill that doubt in a large segment of people, those are revenue streams he can take advantage of.  I am sure probably 6 months definitely less than a year, he will have his Broadcast network ready to sing those conspiracy theories and attempt to be the new Fox.  

Thinking about this more, it might be the reason Fox and the President is not long for their marriage.  Cannot have competing networks for the same viewership.

Even if Trump pardons himself he will be fighting litigation aimed at himself for years to come.  He will spend time at Rykers Island...and meet a very friendly general population. 

I highly doubt that President Trump will see any prison time.  If anything he will be sued to death on a number of things but Prison, naw.  Even if he gets hit with some of those tax fraud cases in NY, he probably would be slapped with large fines.



Machiavellian said:
Rab said:
Machiavellian said:

You guys are crazy if you believe its over. Did any of you watch that speech by Sidney Powell yesterday outlining the President legal defense and the huge amount of evidence of voter fraud that has happen in this election. You have to watch it, she names just about every GOP boggieman you can think of. There is Venezuela, Cuba and China having a hand in the situation. Clinton and George Soros was thrown in for good luck. Then they tried to tie in Smartmatic technology in which only one county in LA actually use their software but we are to believe they somehow own Dominion Voting System and have backdoors, algorithm that allow them to switch votes on the voting machines all while not leaving a trace (convient when you cannot bring evidence to court). Servers running in multiple foreign countries and executives running away before the might of the US coming to find them. It was glorious and the GOP are eating it up every word. Oh this elections very far from over and the popcorn fueling drama is only going to get better.

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/melanie-arter/sidney-powell-stunning-heartbreaking-infuriating-and-most

Even Tucker Carlson isn't buying her story, it's over without evidence, it's just been a fantasy 

I was going to talk about this video as well because it just keeps getting better and better.  You guys believe its over, no its not but not in the same way you might think.  The key to this whole thing and especially all that dog meat Sidney threw out their is how much they are taking just about every conspiracy theory they can string together and throwing it at the wall.  The impact is that this has not been about the election for a long time within the Trump administration and court battles but something along the lines of probably a TV show, or his Broadcasting Network.  He is trying to ride this train all the way so he can continue to proclaim he never lost, fraud and all that jazz.  With 73 million people voting for him, that is quite a large platform he and his team is trying to hold on to and stay relevant.  Its actually not a bad ideal if you really think about it on a business level.  If he can instill that doubt in a large segment of people, those are revenue streams he can take advantage of.  I am sure probably 6 months definitely less than a year, he will have his Broadcast network ready to sing those conspiracy theories and attempt to be the new Fox.  

Thinking about this more, it might be the reason Fox and the President is not long for their marriage.  Cannot have competing networks for the same viewership.

But that doesn't really change a thing. It'll just switch around who holds power in the bullshit wars on TV. As long as Democrats manage to get the Senate and implement at least a bit more democracy, they can secure a second term. It's not like the right hasn't been spewing bullshit long before and during the Trump administration. It will radicalize more people but I doubt it will produce more votes.

The democrats have all the cards and it is absolutely up to them who rules the country, just as it has always been in the past decades. Trump managed to mobilize more Democrat voters than ever before and the more the Republicans move to the right extreme the easier it will be.



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Machiavellian said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

Even if Trump pardons himself he will be fighting litigation aimed at himself for years to come.  He will spend time at Rykers Island...and meet a very friendly general population. 

I highly doubt that President Trump will see any prison time.  If anything he will be sued to death on a number of things but Prison, naw.  Even if he gets hit with some of those tax fraud cases in NY, he probably would be slapped with large fines.

Individual 1 (Trump) was named a co-conspirator for a crime that his ex-lawyer was sentenced to prison for.
There are over 13 counts of obstruction of justice from Muller's report, etc.
Here's some more from yesterday:
https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/new-york-state-is-criminally-targeting-donald-trump-over-payments-to-ivanka-trump/34238/

Trump is in deep legal jeopardy from many angles. And the only thing preventing him from getting prosecuted is his position as President.
What this may be about is that Trump is trying to bide his time in order to cut himself a Nixon-type deal and 'leave office peacefully'.

But the problem for him is that he has nothing to trade, and all bluffs keep getting called.

Last edited by Hiku - on 20 November 2020

Machiavellian said:
Rab said:
Machiavellian said:

You guys are crazy if you believe its over. Did any of you watch that speech by Sidney Powell yesterday outlining the President legal defense and the huge amount of evidence of voter fraud that has happen in this election. You have to watch it, she names just about every GOP boggieman you can think of. There is Venezuela, Cuba and China having a hand in the situation. Clinton and George Soros was thrown in for good luck. Then they tried to tie in Smartmatic technology in which only one county in LA actually use their software but we are to believe they somehow own Dominion Voting System and have backdoors, algorithm that allow them to switch votes on the voting machines all while not leaving a trace (convient when you cannot bring evidence to court). Servers running in multiple foreign countries and executives running away before the might of the US coming to find them. It was glorious and the GOP are eating it up every word. Oh this elections very far from over and the popcorn fueling drama is only going to get better.

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/melanie-arter/sidney-powell-stunning-heartbreaking-infuriating-and-most

Even Tucker Carlson isn't buying her story, it's over without evidence, it's just been a fantasy 

 

I was going to talk about this video as well because it just keeps getting better and better.  You guys believe its over, no its not but not in the same way you might think.  The key to this whole thing and especially all that dog meat Sidney threw out their is how much they are taking just about every conspiracy theory they can string together and throwing it at the wall.  The impact is that this has not been about the election for a long time within the Trump administration and court battles but something along the lines of probably a TV show, or his Broadcasting Network.  He is trying to ride this train all the way so he can continue to proclaim he never lost, fraud and all that jazz.  With 73 million people voting for him, that is quite a large platform he and his team is trying to hold on to and stay relevant.  Its actually not a bad ideal if you really think about it on a business level.  If he can instill that doubt in a large segment of people, those are revenue streams he can take advantage of.  I am sure probably 6 months definitely less than a year, he will have his Broadcast network ready to sing those conspiracy theories and attempt to be the new Fox.  

Thinking about this more, it might be the reason Fox and the President is not long for their marriage.  Cannot have competing networks for the same viewership.

Yea it is not a bad idea to con people into thinking elections are rigged and put on path of destroying democracy with a party embracing conspiracy theories that are widely debunked.  Lets just look at a few of his supporters in this recent article...

“If President Trump comes out and says: ‘Guys, I have irrefutable proof of fraud, the courts won’t listen, and I’m now calling on Americans to take up arms,’ we would go,” said Fryar, wearing a button-down shirt, pressed slacks and a paisley tie during a recent interview at his office.

“There’s millions and millions of Trump votes that were just thrown out,” said Hedrick, 70, a retired teacher and librarian. “That computer was throwing them out.”

“I think if they ever get to the bottom of it, they will find massive fraud,” said another of the diners, Larry Kessel, a 67-year-old farmer.

“I like that I get to hear from Rudy Giuliani and others who are not immediately discounted as being crazy,” he said of Trump’s lead election lawyer.

“Trump is the only one we’ve been able to trust for the last four years,” said Strickland, an oilfield production engineer. “As far as the civil war goes, I don’t think it’s off the table.”

“If I’m being manipulated by Trump ... then he is the greatest con man that ever lived in America,” Caleb Fryar said. “I think he’s the greatest patriot that ever lived.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fraud-insight/why-republican-voters-say-theres-no-way-in-hell-trump-lost-idUSKBN2801D4

I'm pretty much ashamed of being american now.  Republicans have almost succeeded in turning this country into a banana republic.  I'm seriously considering moving out of this country because almost half the population are bat shit crazy.  I just don't understand why people like Trump so much.  He is a fucking loser and a con.  He couldn't even run his casinos.



This is absolutely fucking amazing...

In their lawsuit in Michigan, the Trump Campaign cited an affidavit from an alleged cybersecurity expert showing that in certain counties of Michigan had more voters than residents. The list is on page 3 of the affidavit.https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.283580/gov.uscourts.gand.283580.7.1_2.pdf

Some of those precincts include Houston, Monticello, and Benville. The problem? There is no Houston Township, Benville Township, or Monticello Township in Michigan.

It seems the expert that the Trump campaign relied on accidentally confused Minnesota with Michigan. And, to be fair to the gentleman, I have made that mistake several times when discussing polling in this election. They both start with MI afterall! It's an easy mistake to make...But, I'm a rando on the internet. It's ok for me to make mistakes. It's a bit less ok for someone trying to overturn the results of a national election to make such an error. That's the level of competence on this elite legal team XD.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/11/20/trump-ally-confuses-michigan-and-minnesota-in-affidavit-claiming-voter-fraud/?sh=39dc9aa5135e

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 20 November 2020