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Yep, looks like Germany is going to shit now. We're on the path to eclipse the first wave and nobody is doing anything. When we had those numbers back in March everything closed down and we had mandatory home office. Those idiots are even already saying that there is not gonna be another complete lockdown. Do they really believe the numbers will magically go down by doing nothing?



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RolStoppable said:
vivster said:
Yep, looks like Germany is going to shit now. We're on the path to eclipse the first wave and nobody is doing anything. When we had those numbers back in March everything closed down and we had mandatory home office. Those idiots are even already saying that there is not gonna be another complete lockdown. Do they really believe the numbers will magically go down by doing nothing?

I don't see the point in comparing today's numbers with numbers from March when they aren't alike. Back then there was a large number of unknown cases due to low number of tests, but now things are different. Back then there was also the fear that hospital capacities would not be big enough, but now it's more relaxed.

Lastly, numbers will go down by doing nothing because people will recover from the illness. That's not magic, that's life.

Germany always had good testing, ahead of the rest of Europe. Most people will recover, a lot will have lasting symptoms, some will die. However the numbers won't go down soon since to reach herd immunity it needs to get really bad first. 83 million people in Germany, 312K reported cases so far. Even if that number is 10 times too low, that's only 3.6% of the population that might have build up some immunity.

This doesn't help https://gbdeclaration.org/

As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.
Back to UKs initial plan

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/latest-call-for-herd-immunity-draws-scorn-from-public-health-experts-1.5137679

People are so impatient nowadays. Some Cathedrals took 600 years to build, yet social distancing, giving up night life and wearing face masks for more than a few months, too hard.

Ontario Canada is in the same boat, record number of cases again today, already beat the first wave high. So far it were mostly younger people, however now hospitalizations are starting to increase since the virus is spreading to the parents. Numbers will also go down when all the vulnerable are dead.



jason1637 said:
We set a new worldwide high yesterday. Looks like Europe is leading most of the growth right now

And a new peak today.



I don't even want to imagine the situation Germany would be in if it wasn't for the mandatory mask in most places. But it's still no use if you let people roam around in crowded places. Wonder how high the cases have to go for them to take it seriously again. I mean it's great that we're super confident in our world class health system, but we shouldn't have to test its limits.



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vivster said:
I don't even want to imagine the situation Germany would be in if it wasn't for the mandatory mask in most places. But it's still no use if you let people roam around in crowded places. Wonder how high the cases have to go for them to take it seriously again. I mean it's great that we're super confident in our world class health system, but we shouldn't have to test its limits.

Weren't masks introduced in Germoney after the 'wave' was nearly over in late April? (secret: there was never a wave in Germoney to begin with)

Why do mandatory masks 'work' in some countries but not in others? Why do (some) lock down champions have the highest overall death spikes?

EU countries with fewer total deaths in 2020 compared to previous years, the inverse-Covid alliance:

Austria

Denmark

Estonia

Finland

Germany

Greece

Hungary

Luxembourg

Malta

Norway

Portugal

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/

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It seems that overall mortality in the US has returned into the normal range (graph ends 26. September and last three weeks are estimations).

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Last edited by numberwang - on 09 October 2020

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jason1637 said:
jason1637 said:
We set a new worldwide high yesterday. Looks like Europe is leading most of the growth right now

And a new peak today.

Another day another new high. Thats 3 days of new worldwide highs back to back to back.



US just had its highest day in cases since August 14th. Buckle up, wave 1 part 3 is coming.



jason1637 said:
US just had its highest day in cases since August 14th. Buckle up, wave 1 part 3 is coming.

If the movie industry is anything to go by the 3rd part is always the worst.



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