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jason1637 said:
Pemalite said:
JFC. Life > Economy.
Why is this even up for debate? Seriously.

Shitty economy and finances make it harder to live. An conversation about reopening safety is ine we should be having. We cant be closed until a vaccine. 

You can stay closed until numbers drop enough to open up safely, as many countries have shown. Some countries opted to open up again before numbers were decreasing, gaining them justified criticism, because opening up will basically cancel out everything they gained from the lockdown, essentially taking an economic hit for nothing while still having high deaths.



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Some updates about Germany:

Less than 1000 people in ICUs
Testing capacity has increased but not by a whole lot. 425k tests conducted during the past week. Only 1.7% turned out to be positive.
6 out of 16 federal states have less than 10 cases a day (5 out of those have less than 5 cases a day). City state Bremen is the worst performing state as of late on a per capita basis. (over 3 times worse than the next state, Bavaria).
R0 is estimated to be about 0.85.



Barozi said:
Some updates about Germany:

Less than 1000 people in ICUs
Testing capacity has increased but not by a whole lot. 425k tests conducted during the past week. Only 1.7% turned out to be positive.
6 out of 16 federal states have less than 10 cases a day (5 out of those have less than 5 cases a day). City state Bremen is the worst performing state as of late on a per capita basis. (over 3 times worse than the next state, Bavaria).
R0 is estimated to be about 0.85.

Yep, Germany is doing well.

On a weekly average Germany is down to 624 reported cases per day and 59 deaths per day.
The 3 day average decline currently is 80.8% week over week, or 0.970x per day, halving time of just over 3 weeks.
It went up a bit though this week, week over week decline was at 69% last Friday and bottomed at 57% on May 2nd.

Comparing estimates for how many infected there should still be based on deaths:
0.7% IFR at 59 deaths per day -> 8,400 cases per day 15 days ago.
The reported cases went down 31% compared to 15 days ago, thus about 5,800 newly infected today (almost 10 times more than detected)

Of course IFR for Germany could be higher or maybe even lower but it seems reasonable coming out at 9.3x more infections than detected.
(Some countries that number will be a lot higher, yet Germany is doing a great job at testing)




Ka-pi96 said:
John2290 said:

You're drastically underestimating how many people are on this planet right now and are here, alive and healthy because of that standard of living. You strip away the economy that allowed them to be fucked into existence and you pull away their life support. You're also severely over estimating the governments ability, competence and stability, they can't save us from a depression anymore than they can save us fron the virus.

Yes, Life is more important but I'm saying food is important to life. Work is important to money. Money is important to buy food and so it goes around in a circle. 

Are you suggesting that the governments cease the means of production and then take a whip, make people produce food and then distribute it to everyone for the next decade? Great idea, we'll see how long it takes for a new system to be put in place after the current is torn to pieces and we loose a great deal of lives in the process.  

Actually, you're drastically overestimating them. They're probably a negative number, since countries with lower standards of living typically have higher population growth rates. ie. there are actually less people alive and health in 1st world countries, because of the high standard of living.

Why would the government need to force people to produce food? They're going to do that anyway. And they're going to sell it anyway. And if people don't have as much money as they did before then prices will go down to match people's spending power. That's how economies work normally. Why would it stop doing that all of a sudden now?

Someone already replied to you and mentioned rapid inflation however I just wanted to add that what your talking about here is supply and demand and that is out of anyones control let alone within the governments and if the government force people to produce food, sell that food off of that persons back and distribute the food crippling the people along the supply chain while in a depression it only helps the end user and your asking for a labour revolution and a repeat of the early 20th century when people like Hitler came along with all his ideas of national socalism and all the good that that done and by good I mean all the absolute atrocity it brought about. 

Go read up on the great depression and see why they couldn't simply adjust the prices to meet peoples spending power and yeah, they had a scarcity of food and all and our depression will likely not be as bad but yes, it will change all of a sudden and that's why it's called a depression and not a really, really, very bad recession. 

Man, I feel like we are doomed to relive the 20th century again at any rate, most liely a great deal of the shit parts before we get back to the golden age and our system is going to be reworked after this, for better or worse. 



Took the covid antibody shot today and my arm feels so weird.



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jason1637 said:
Took the covid antibody shot today and my arm feels so weird.

That's just the shot working against your body. It's why they're called anti-body.



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jason1637 said:
Took the covid antibody shot today and my arm feels so weird.

Shot? I thought you said you were getting an anti body test.

Are you in a clinical trial?



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SvennoJ said:
jason1637 said:
Took the covid antibody shot today and my arm feels so weird.

Shot? I thought you said you were getting an anti body test.

Are you in a clinical trial?

It was a test but in shot form i guess. They're widespread here in NYC. You just have to register and set an appointment 

I get results in 2-3 days.



jason1637 said:
SvennoJ said:

Shot? I thought you said you were getting an anti body test.

Are you in a clinical trial?

It was a test but in shot form i guess. They're widespread here in NYC. You just have to register and set an appointment 

I get results in 2-3 days.

I wish I could get an anti body test here. I would really like to know if my wife and I already endured covid19 in Februari. She was very sick for a long time with all the symptoms (fearing not waking up due to lack of oxygen) and I had a weird sore throat for about a month and generally felt tired. (While I hardly ever get sick and usually fight anything off in a couple days)

I rather get myself tested first, since if it wasn't covid19, she will likely not survive getting it. That double pneumonia with complications that she did have made us extra cautious. However all I can find is that Quebec and maybe Ontario will start random anti body tests at some point in time. Canada only approved the first test on May 12th.

By the time it finally gets available here the IgG antibodies might be gone already lol. It's almost been 3 months now.

I send an email to the local health unit. We never got a follow up call from the doctor who is impossible to reach anyway.