NightlyPoe said:
John2290 said:
But millions will be sick enough to need a very limited supply of medical equipment to survive, this is fact, even spread those numbers out over two years with the time they need the vast majority will die but the UK are going to let a spike like Italy, just happen. What is it that i am missing? Please tell me I am missing something.
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The UK is not letting a spike happen. They're mitigating as best they can. Seriously, what fever swamps are you guys reading? Whatever it is, knock it off because it's nothing but hate-filled garbage that's polluting your view of the world.
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That 7.9 million people need hospitalization estimate was from the UK, but reported by The Guardian, which is indeed fever swamp.
However more conservative estimates, 40% infected at peak, 5% need ICU, 1.32 million need to be hospitalized in the UK. There are 167K hospital beds in the UK. So any peak can not be more than 5% of the population, and then you still have to convert all those hospital beds into ICU beds with ventilators. Plus it takes 2 to 4 weeks to recover when you need to get into the ICU. And of course those 167K beds aren't just available.
Maximum effort on containment is key while producing more equipment, build more hospitals, research medication and a vaccine.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/welfare-cuts-left-uk-undefended-coronavirus-200312193147678.html
Dunno if it's credible, hope not :(
Italian doctors have warned medics across Europe to "get ready" for Coronavirus in a letter revealing that up to 10 percent of all those infected with coronavirus need intensive care, with hospitals becoming overwhelmed.
There are more than 4,000 intensive care beds in the UK, but about four-fifths are currently occupied, according to those OECD figures. Once all hospitals start taking patients, the NHS will be forced to cut back on various types of surgery and treatment, to relieve a little pressure on intensive care. But there is clearly a limit to how many patients can be admitted into intensive care.
Most cases will be mild, although the evidence suggests one in five may need hospital treatment, with one in 10 needing critical care. That would certainly put the NHS under strain, even if the proportion of cases is half the worst-case projections.
So true, the UK has no other option than not to let a spike happen.
Canada is not much better, 2.5 beds per 1,000 people, Ontario 2.3, same as the UK :/