| Shadow1980 said:
My concern is all the complaining from the usual suspects about Bernie getting "screwed" again and not wanting to vote for Biden. In 2000, a moderate Democrat won the nomination over a more progressive candidate. Enough progressive voters sat at home or voted third-party to throw the election to Bush. The exact same things happened again in 2016, leading to Trump winning. Now here we are in 2020, and many progressives are apparently ready to repeat the same mistake again. They act like Bernie not winning is an absolute outrage, and that the most sensible course of action is to not vote for Biden in the general out of protest. Time and time again, too many progressive voters demonstrate quite clearly that they think having the ideal candidate is more important than winning.
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Sorry, this isn't how it works. Biden isn't entitled to get progressive votes. He has to earn them. Like Bernie needed to earn the votes of more conservatives voters in the primary and failed. But that doesn't mean a single progressive is forced to vote for Biden. People have the freedom to choose whoever they want and it is Biden's job to get these votes.
And it is not like Democrats or Republicans make a big difference to a lot of people. A lot of people are screwed either way. For instance, Obama promised a better health care. But after Obamacare 30 millions are uninsured and about 50 millions have unsufficient insurance. Why should they vote for Biden, after he said he will even veto a bill that passes house and senate that makes their situation better? Why should they? Or Obama promised to end foreign wars. But in reality it didn't happen. So why should people who lost loved ones vote Democrats over Republicans (or at all), if it makes no differences to their demands?
And don't you dare put Kerry's and Clinton's losses on the progressives. Both candidates failed to activate the voters, both candidates were basically bad candidates and both did nothing to earn progressive votes. But worse, Hillary Clinton was a sore loser and blamed everything and everyone for her loss, except herself and her campaign obviously. No, it's not progressives fault they lost.
And it is not helping Biden, if you go around and blame progressives and then demand (!) they better vote for him. It's basically spitting in their faces and saying: I only stop if you vote for my candidate. All you will achieve is making even more sure progressive will be revulsed from Biden, if this is how his supporters behave.
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