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The consumers who can't afford a PS4, possibly also can't afford to be part of events such as e3, even if it's due to their location and time. If instead of expecting those people to come to you for one big event, what if you spent all year going to them with smaller community based events? This would also be a great idea if you were launching a mobile/handheld/hybrid platform, after one large worldwide announcement first. If not, PS4 and Pro on the road would probably do wonders regardless.



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BraLoD said:
They are gearing up to the PS5.
I don't think Sony is ever coming back to E3 (or at least for some years, if their new models goes wrong), they said they are looking for new ways to engage the community, there is nothing to do with "Sony has nothing to show" as some people are trying to push, there is always something to show, even if its nothing theirs, PS4 has a huge amount of 3rd party support and could bring several announcements from them, they have never missed a conference before, this is unprecedent, Sony has left E3 for good, the statement was pretty clear IMO.
The point is Sony is using the PS5 reveal as a chance to promote themselves even more, PSE will be their whole focus, and they might be thinking about spreading their announcements over the year.
E3 was a big show and good for Sony but now they want ever bit of the attention they bring to benefir only themselves, and they'll use the PS5 to catapult this.
From now on PSE is their main event, they might still appear on small events here and there if the timing is good, but the big guns will all be announced on events of their own.

While I am not convinced they hve left E3 for good, I aso kinda agree with you.

It just makes sense now for them to focus on PSX at the end of every year. I mean right now we have quakecon, EA has their own conference, ubisoft has theirs, SE hs theirs.....etc. There really is no point in having E3 anymore.   



Let's just not assume there must necessarily be a good reason: although this is a gen when Sony did most things right, in its history it did many little and big mistakes.



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Intrinsic said:
BraLoD said:
They are gearing up to the PS5.
I don't think Sony is ever coming back to E3 (or at least for some years, if their new models goes wrong), they said they are looking for new ways to engage the community, there is nothing to do with "Sony has nothing to show" as some people are trying to push, there is always something to show, even if its nothing theirs, PS4 has a huge amount of 3rd party support and could bring several announcements from them, they have never missed a conference before, this is unprecedent, Sony has left E3 for good, the statement was pretty clear IMO.
The point is Sony is using the PS5 reveal as a chance to promote themselves even more, PSE will be their whole focus, and they might be thinking about spreading their announcements over the year.
E3 was a big show and good for Sony but now they want ever bit of the attention they bring to benefir only themselves, and they'll use the PS5 to catapult this.
From now on PSE is their main event, they might still appear on small events here and there if the timing is good, but the big guns will all be announced on events of their own.

While I am not convinced they hve left E3 for good, I aso kinda agree with you.

It just makes sense now for them to focus on PSX at the end of every year. I mean right now we have quakecon, EA has their own conference, ubisoft has theirs, SE hs theirs.....etc. There really is no point in having E3 anymore.   

The guy does speak exclusively about E3 2019 but I doubt Sony would look for a new model to just use it for one year and get back to focusing on E3 in the following year, unless as I said, their plans go wrong.

They announced the PS4 exists (with the DS4 reveal) February 2013 and later revealed the system, pricing and release during E3 that year, so I expect something similar for next year, PS5 exists announcement around April/May, PS5 reveal during PSX with all info, and I expect it to release March 2020.

This whole generation Sony has focused releasing their biggest games early in the year, and we have phones and switch trends of great launchs for tech hardware early in the year instead of late lately as well, it'll likely be the case with the PS5 too.

The doubt I have now is, only TLoU2 or GoT will come 2019, which one will it be? It would make more sense to hold TLoU2 for an imminent PS5 launch like Nintendo did to BotW to explode enthusiasm on the system launch, so it might be it.

Honestly I would preffer a TLoU route, first PS4 then PS5 (as it was first PS3 then PS4), but I think it makes more sense to pack it in with the new system, as  it works better for their pockets.

I don't really like the idea, tho. Would preffer to be always jaw dropped by it as a swan song for the old system where every last bit of greatness they could pour on it was done instead of a game that has a new system version that makes a thing a bit better than it did.



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VideoGameAccountant said:

That could be a possibility if they weren't also skipping PSX this year. It sounds more likely they aren't doing E3 for the same reason they aren't doing PSX: they don't have any more titles to show.

I think shikamaru's assessment was right that a lot of these games are going to be available on PS5. Death Stranding most definitively is and I expected that the minute they showed off walking gameplay and no release date. I wouldn't doubt that Days Gone may be as well. Not sure about TLOU2. 

All in all, these announcements suggest that Sony isn't doing events because they don't have any titles and a lot of what is left is being moved to the PS5. Keep in mind game development, especially on the AAA consoles, has been getting longer and longer. So long that Sony would show off games at multiple E3s before being released. If Sony just releases these titles on PS4 and leaves nothing for PS5, then the system will basically have nothing but filler for a good 3-4 years after release. Moreover, Nintendo showed this does work as they did with Zelda. With increased competition from Nintendo and Microsoft and the economy being strong, my guess is PS5 will be released before March 31st 2020 and likely be shown off in late 2019. 

To me it would seem very unlikely that Sony would not be able to acquire enough material for an event for over a full year. So if they skip PSX due to lack of content, then the reason for E3 should not be the same. And that seems reflected in their contrasting statements.
They cite a lack of relevant news to warrant a PSX show, but for E3 they were specifically talking about exploring new ways to reach their audience instead.

PSX, which also hosts the Capcom Cup Street Fighter V finals, is also an expensive event. Especially compared to something like a Nintendo Direct.
That the content they have to display this year didn't warrant the cost of the PSX sounds plausible considering they attended E3. However, if they want to make their PSX more eventful, moving their otherwise E3 announcements to PSX would be one way to go about it. But that would not be possible this year, since they did attend E3 2017. They could only make PSX more stacked starting from 2018.
That's assuming they will do a PSX again, which I'm not sure about either.

One thing we can be sure of is that all these companies have increasingly questioned if the millions in expenses of attending E3 are worth it, after we left the age where most people got their gaming information from magazines and TV.

I'm not disagreeing that several of these upcoming Sony first party titles will be either cross generational, or outright moved to PS5. I suspect that will happen as well. But I cannot see them not having enough content to show at E3 a full year later, especially when they skip PSX. And when they have such strong third party support, and when they can show off new cross generational games, which there will no doubt be many of considering PS4's very large install base. Like how Metal Gear Solid V was presented before PS4 was announced.

I don't see how it couldn't be the same reason. The PS4 is at the end of it's life and we've seen every game Sony will release on it. What would E3 be again? More Last of Us? More Death Stranding? More Days Gone? There aren't any other games left to warrant E3 just as there isn't enough to warrant PSX. Additionally, it may also be for the simple reason that these games are now releasing on the PS5, so they'll likely go dark until then. 

Sony's game division has been doing well with some hit titles and the improving US economy. If anything, it's much better than it was during the PS3 years when the division was tanking. But now Sony is going to pinch pennies? Additionally, you mention that companies are questioning the cost of E3, but have they really? Microsoft still holds huge events when they have less than Sony, and the only thing Nintendo has backed off on is the stage event. Nintendo still takes up a large space at E3 which is where I'm sure the lion's share of the cost comes from (think about setting these up, hiring people to run it, taking it down and the bill they pay the ESA for doing it). Again, Sony has never questioned it before, even when they had real financial difficulties with actual fear of bankruptcy, they still attended E3.

I think the different statements are just PR talk. Sony not doing their own little event is one thing but skipping out on the biggest press event for video games is a much bigger deal. Saying "We aren't going to E3 because no games" is a bad look during the transition period of a new consoles. I think that unique event where they communicate with their fans is the reveal of the PS5.

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I think they will keep all the new info they have for future games and the PS5 to use on their own event to ensure they can create enough positive hype for it in one blast.



BraLoD said:
Intrinsic said:

While I am not convinced they hve left E3 for good, I aso kinda agree with you.

It just makes sense now for them to focus on PSX at the end of every year. I mean right now we have quakecon, EA has their own conference, ubisoft has theirs, SE hs theirs.....etc. There really is no point in having E3 anymore.   

The guy does speak exclusively about E3 2019 but I doubt Sony would look for a new model to just use it for one year and get back to focusing on E3 in the following year, unless as I said, their plans go wrong.

They announced the PS4 exists (with the DS4 reveal) February 2013 and later revealed the system, pricing and release during E3 that year, so I expect something similar for next year, PS5 exists announcement around April/May, PS5 reveal during PSX with all info, and I expect it to release March 2020.

This whole generation Sony has focused releasing their biggest games early in the year, and we have phones and switch trends of great launchs for tech hardware early in the year instead of late lately as well, it'll likely be the case with the PS5 too.

The doubt I have now is, only TLoU2 or GoT will come 2019, which one will it be? It would make more sense to hold TLoU2 for an imminent PS5 launch like Nintendo did to BotW to explode enthusiasm on the system launch, so it might be it.

Honestly I would preffer a TLoU route, first PS4 then PS5 (as it was first PS3 then PS4), but I think it makes more sense to pack it in with the new system, as  it works better for their pockets.

I don't really like the idea, tho. Would preffer to be always jaw dropped by it as a swan song for the old system where every last bit of greatness they could pour on it was done instead of a game that has a new system version that makes a thing a bit better than it did.

If the Ps4 announcement and release worked, what need is there for them to follow a Switch esque release date? As you say, Sony tends to release their games earlier in the year with 3rd parties bringing content for the end of the year. So then does it not make sense to release the PS5 towards the end of the year with all 3rd party involved, and something from themselves, and then a few months later to release an additional game?

Switch's release works because WiiU barely had software at that point in its life. It is going to be a tougher sell for them to announce the PS5 exists in April/ May and have both the PS4 sell well with 3rd party releases during the holiday and have PS5 start off strong with what will most likely be many ports in March. 

Their PS4 reveal strategy would work better for both the PS4 and the PS5. 
Likewise they dont need TloU5 to be brought back just to release with the PS5. TLoU PS3 launched 5 months before the PS4 and sales for the game and hardware was fine. PS5 will most likely run PS4 games so it wont really matter. They cna do a TloU2 Complete re-release for PS5 only a year later and that would work just as well.

But I am sure Sony has this all mapped out. 



bluemd said:

While leaving e3 may seem crazy, sony was the one company with most to lose from e3. 

 

Being Nintendo and sony the most popular  console companies they managed to attract most of the attention to the conference. At the same time sony was the one who spent the most on the conference, while giving Microsoft lots of visibility (even outside the conference).

 

Now without sony and eNintendo (and probably other third parties) e3 will become less and less important, leaving to each consolle producer alone in promoting their brand. And the less popolar you are, the more you will suffer the lack of a single conference.

 

What do you think? 

sony is not going to e3 simply because it has no new games to show. They want to avoid a repeat of last e3 disaster. I'm sure sony will now learn not to blow your load on one e3. 



Even after all these years they are still saying sony has no gamez!!! crow will be served again



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